...I wish this one was never released on DVD. Of all the movies that could be released, this one was the worst selection, along with the reasoning behind not releasing "Songs of the South" I can't even watch the original "Imitation of Life" Because of the sterotypes featured. I figured I was open minded, but this type of movie only brings thoughts of servitude, and shame to me. I'm sure someone else may feel the same way, but I think movies like The Green Pastures, etc, are an embarassment to African Americans. Now...I got it off my chest...
It was a glorious film. The cultural form of worship portrayed in The Green Pastures represents PRECISELY a society that existed in fact. I see no stereotypes of insults or condescension anywhere. It's only there if you choose to take it that way. And that's entirely up to you.
But if one chooses to watch with a mind of seeking truth to religion, and how one culture went about that, then this is a fantastic movie.
This is the first I've seen this movie. It seems as though the whole movie is a daydream of one of the children hearing the story in Sunday school. It's great.
it baffles me how someone can say to a person commenting about a movie made about HIM or HER that how they feel about it is wrong. the only people saying that it's a beautiful movie and that is how it WAS are those that didn't live the lives those black people did.
The society existed this way "PRECISELY." Black Americans aspired for nothing more in heaven than to have a great big fish fry while smoking dime cigars? Oh, and I'm sure, if they had a say in it, that Adam would be dressed like a slave.
It is there because we choose to see them, you are right Fugitive_at_imdb. Those stereotypes were real and still persist today. If this is meant to seek "truth" in the christian religion, then the truth of it is that Christianity was used to oppress the African American throughout American history, with the idea that the "meek shall inherit the earth". I am in no way oppressing the Christian religion but am stating what I have found in studies thus far. It is in the books, check some of them out, I recommend: Toms, Coons, Mullatoes, Mammies, and Bucks by Donald Bogle - check it out:
You have some strange ideas about the Christian religion; I wonder if the Rev M.L.King would agree?
Read Bogle's book, by all means, but recall: many people have had a simple faith in simple images, like ten cent seegars. No one 'has to be kidding you' it was so. The rev. Sydney Smith, a napoleonic wars parson in England, famously described some of his countrymen's idea of heaven as 'eating pâté de foie gras to the sound of trumpets'. All white people there, you notice.
As I watched the film, the simple images ( and smiling a little at them) faded away, and the message took over ; God's anger with sin, and finally being reconciled with man through the Crucifixion. Now, whether you believe it or not, this is serious stuff, and black folks are treated as serious players in it. Ultimately, there are few films made then that so uphold human dignity as this one. I was surprised to find it so, because I was expecting something like the execrable 'heaven on a mule' number done by Al Jolson in 'Wonder Bar'(1934).
If this film is on the Library of Congress' list, so it should be.
Mixed feelings. I was charmed by the story, Bible tales told through the perspective of a child imagining them in a way familiar to her as expressed by a Sunday School teacher or preacher. Look at Renaissance paintings which show Biblical characters in clothing contemporary to the time. I see no anachronisms here, only an updating to an early 20th Century time and place. I hung around to see if they'd have the nerve to show a black Jesus, or worse, have him be the only whitey, but no! A few things made me squirm uncomfortably, but overall I voted it an 8 due to the imagination and excellence of the story, acting, and especially the music! I may not want the movie on DVD but would buy the soundtrack!
Stereotypes does exist in a lot of the classic movies towards black people but try to look past that and look at the talent. The black actors and actresses in this movie gave their all and tried to make people look past the stereotypes. Blacks in movies back then were forced to be stereotypes but at least their talent was their own.
It seems to me that he was pretty well immersed in the southern African-American bible school scene, and reflected his memories in his writings.
To accuse the writers or directors of stereotyping is, I believe, unfair. I think that to be guilty of stereotyping, one will imply that each individual of an entire group will exhibit the same mannerisms and habits. But to write these mannerisms and habits into characters in a book is not stereotyping. If you want to diss movies that feature stereotypes, you got a WHOLE LOTTA FILM FOOTAGE to rant about. This movie is part of the history of African-Americans in film, and it should be preserved.
Why do we as black people try to romanticize our history? I'm black and I'm from Louisiana and I gotta tell that's how they talked and acted in the south. I have older relatives that talk just like that. Look we were not all scholars like WEB Dubois and we weren't all Scientist like George Washington Carver. The truth is in that time for the most part we were workers. Basically performing the same duties we did as slaves for a little pay. Get over it. Get some perspective. This movie was made in 1936. All the crappy blackxploitation movies of the 70's. All the I'll slap a b%tch yea I'm a drug dealing pimp, music of today; but you're offended by a movie that portrays God as a Black Man because he doesn't pronounce children correctly. You sir are a douche.
Thank You! I think you shut everyone up with that, and I love your style! I can't believe people are becoming indignate about the portrayal of God-lovin' folk in a movie with not one oppressive white person in it for us to be skinnin' and grinnin' to, but they'll sit and laugh at us callin' each other Bs and H'es in 2009 while building an empire for Sony and Time Warner. And by the way why aren't these historical movies even played on BET? 'Cause it'd be a bad economic move for [white owned] Viacom. They know what we want.Did anyone notice the cast of thousands in that movie that didn't have to scrub a floor or wash a window while they were filming? Some of us indignant folk were laughin' at JJ and Fred the junkman in the 70s so let's not get all "uppity" now over a classic piece of art. Wake-up, my people! There's plenty enough for us to get angry over in TODAYs world.
Amen! I thought this was one of the best portrayals of black people in an movie from the 1930's I ever seen. It just seemed they were played believable and lovingly I truly enjoyed this. Unlike most movies it from that time with black people it didn't make me cringe every time they talked.
Kitty Collins: Tell me, little boy, did you get a whistle or baseball bat with that suit?
Thank you, JC, because my brother and I were raised by our great-grandparents in South GA in the 70's and believe me they and their fellow churchgoers talked like the people did in 'Green Pastures' but they were not unintelligent people. I'm far from the Christian they may have thought they raised but watching GP reminded me of Sunday school mornings and the gentle, loving God they raised me to believe in. There was none of this stuff like nowadays about being in the hands of a narrow-minded, angry God who's about to come down and toss us all in a lake of fire.
I watch many old movies on TCM and as a Black man I'm aware of the stereotypes that can be found in those films and there were a few scenes in GP notably when Moses confronted Pharoah but these works are a learning experience which shows that Jim Crow, segregation, and 'seperate but equal' were once the law of the land in this country. Cliched as it is, studying the past maybe can lead to a better understanding of the future. If De Lawd and Gabriel help with that then that's definitely a good thing.
"All the I'll slap a b%tch yea I'm a drug dealing pimp, music of today; but you're offended by a movie that portrays God as a Black Man because he doesn't pronounce children correctly. You sir are a douche."
LOL. You're right jccitizen001. A classic like this (I'm in the middle of watching it on Youtube) gets buried but death/bitch/drug music of today widely defended.
Let's put this in perspective: The portrayals/stereotypes in GREEN PASTURES were virtually the ONLY representation of blacks offered in Hollywood films of the time. There were no black Westerns, screwball comedies, gangster, biographical movies (I'm talking about the "major" studio output, not the all-Negro cheapies). There were virtually no black characters portrayed as real human beings, but mostly as subservient, childlike inferiors. BTW, I'm a middle-aged black male who grew up with older Southern-raised relatives who often spoke in dialect and patois. I can still move in and out of dialect and standard English at will. "It do not phraz me a li'l bit."