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Sam Did Both Him and Fran a Favor (Major Spoiler)


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We always seem to rejoice in Sam coming to his senses at the end and leaving Fran for Mary Astor's character. I know I did since Sam was a really good guy who deserved someone who truly loved him and the fact that Fran had been awful to him throughout the movie. However, upon watching it again last week it dawned on me how horribly unhappy Fran must have been for a number of years even before their trip to Europe. Their life in a small town was suffocating to her and she wanted a totally different life before she was too old to enjoy it. Had she and Sam reunited after all she would have returned to that very same life that was boring her to distraction. Sam is too much of a gentleman not to provide very well for Fran financially in the divorce settlement and she can be able to return to Europe permanently and seek the life that she wants. Still relatively young and quite attractive she will be able to attract men and marry if she so chooses. In the movie she entranced three men within a short period of time so I hardly think that she is ready to climb in the rocking chair and give up. That is why I feel Sam did both of them a favor giving up on something that was not making either of them happy anymore.

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joyce,

Your take on this only takes one so far, imo.

First of all there was nothing inherently required as you imply that they would have to return to the town they lived in while sam was still working. Unless one assumes that Sam is in effect incapable of changing, and living differently in a different place, as for one Edith does not seem to think, and what we see of the begining of his life with her in Naples or wherever else they go suggests is not at all the case, then it is simply incorrect to say they would have returned to such a life.

There is nothing of course to suggest that Sam will be returning to that "boring" life with Edith, so why do you assume Fran had no alternative to look forward to if she stayed with Sam?

But you may be correct about the favor part in any event, since Sam is better off without Fran, quite obviously. Whether Fran will be better off without him? Well, on a going forward basis, at least I think it fair to say Sam's eyes had been opened, and he would not look at her the same, so yes, she might as well try to start over with someone else who might not mind her "the grass is always greener" approach to life.

Fran is perhaps too much the cliched example of the type, but is the type of person who fails to understand the simple maxim that wherever you go, there you are. It is an open question whehter she would ever find an adequate level of happiness, but yes, she may have the chance for it with someone else. After Sam met Edith, I would guess that option was foreclosed for both Sam and Fran.

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She will always wonder if she made the right choice, Her reasons for her action will repeat itself in a matter of time. All marriages have there down times and she seemed to not be aware of this but wanted something better. There will always be something that looks better until one realizes they left something good for them for something they felt WOULD better then missing what they had. There will never be another like him.

I wonder why movies never show how these people fair down the line after they realize they should have never left.

It was good to see a film that shows some men deserves happiness too.

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I agree with the OP. Fran wasn't going to come to her senses and begin appreciating Sam. Their life in Zenith, had they returned together, would have been filled with bickering and discontent. Fran was seeking to turn back time and that wasn't going to happen with or without Sam. Returning alone was going to provide her with a new chance at happiness or misery depending on how she dealt with it. If Sam had faithfully followed her from one fling to another, she couldn't grow or change. Now, without him, she has no choice but to grow or change.

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You say..... Now, without him, she has no choice but to grow or change.

She will never change in the context of the film, she was easy for any guy and lets be real no guy can keep a woman happy whom she does not respect. She was saying to men you can have me because he won't stop anything [he has no control over me]. She gets off on being chased and the power it gives her. Her husband has no power over her to stop it. This is what was exciting to her.

I feel the film was somewhat misunderstood, it was not about her in the end but how the husband has gained confidence in his own right. The last lines should not have been he is gone ashore but he has grown a pair and she would never be happy with a confident man.

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I agree that the end of the film is not about her. It seems that she is only getting the rejection she deserves and that all our feelings are with Dodsworth who deserves happiness and is going to get it.

It is the OP who brought up the subject of what Fran had been going through for years before they went to Europe. We were both speculating about what may happen to Fran in the future. She may have learned something from her "escapade" but she is left to find that out on her own.

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I'm thinking that maybe Fran got a charge out of bullying Sam, by flaunting her romances in his face. She said, after the Iselin affair, "I'm so very, very sorry" to her husband.....but I believe she was sorry b/c she got caught, not b/c of what she did to Sam. Perhaps Sam was a workaholic whom she seldom saw and who didn't share her interests...and she was hardly interested in the auto biz. Anyway, this is my opinion. Would have loved to know what happened to Fran in the future. I'll bet it wasn't pretty.

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You're so right, Piperson. I would have loved to have seen Fatal Fran go back to Zenith and be congratulated left and right for being a new GRANDMOTHER!! Hee-hee---that would have really messed her up. The thing is, Fran could have held up the divorce for just about ever, couldn't she have? And wow---what balls she has, asking Sam if he's going back to that "washed-out ex-pat". He should have thrown that drink right in her face....

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My take on Fran is the same as Sam's take on her -- she was going through a midlife crisis and did not want to grow old. She went to great lengths to present herself to others as a young, desirable woman, and attempted to marry a younger man to prove to herself that she is still young.

The gist of it is that Sam tried to wait her out, as we see so many wives in the same situation do -- he believed it was her "last fling" and subscribed to the old saying "if you love something let it go. If it comes back to you it is yours. If it doesn't, it never was". Many times the mid-life crisis is a temporary thing, and the wandering spouse comes back home when s/he realizes that they were pursuing a fantasy which has no substance and does not make them happy. In Fran's case, she simply refused to ever accept the fact that one chapter of her life was ending and that the next chapter has its own fulfillment if she would only embrace it and pass the baton of youth and vibrancy to her daughter and son-in-law as they start their own family and assume their place as pillars of young adult society. She took Sam's love for her for granted -- assuming that he would always be her safety net, and would wait forever for her and would always take her back, no matter how often she callously ripped his heart out. The fact that she was willing to abandon her daughter and deny her new grandchild in order to hide her age from a bunch of society snobs who probably don't really even care about her says to me that she is incorrigibly self-centered and is obsessed with perpetuating the facade of being a young, glamorous society butterfly who is still found attractive by dashing young men.

An older man can marry a younger woman and still start another family after his children from the first marriage are grown. Fran, however, would not have been able to do that at her age -- we are led to believe that she is at the end of her childbearing years. It wasn't until her new beau's mother bluntly pointed out that ugly truth to her that she finally realized that she had only been kidding herself -- she was never going to be able to turn back the hands of time and if she continued down this path, she was ultimately doomed to be a pathetic old lady who is used and discarded by shallow young men who did not love her, over and over again. Unfortunately for her, by the time she finally realized this fact, Sam had already moved on.

If this movie had taken place today, Fran would have spent untold thousands on plastic surgery and botox to try to keep that illusion of youth going (and would have ruined her looks in the process (a la Bruce Jenner), and would likely jump from relationship to relationship for as long as she was desirable. Eventually she would become just another used-up old woman who constantly gets her heart broken by pursuing younger men who inevitably end up cheating on her with younger women.

Life's a banquet, and most poor suckers are starving to death!

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Excellent review, RRosza!! Very pleasant reading, you hit the nail on the head on everything.

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I came to this board to see if I had rated the film, which I had. Before leaving I came across your post, which is insightful and excellent.
The ending is a wake up call for how life will leave you behind.

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You're so right~~~her interest in herself was almost psychotic; she truly wanted to regress back to her early 30s (or earlier, if possible) to the extent that she wouldn't allow Sam to even mention that they were grandparents or call his own daughter on the day she gave birth to their grandson! I wonder if Sinclair Lewis actually knew someone like this; did he model Fran after somebody? It would be interesting to know.

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Actually Fran found it quite easy to attract men (for some reason) and had money so I suspect she was always going to turn out just fine.

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I've said this before, but I'll say it again....

My view of Fran is that she's always been someone's daughter, someone's wife, or someone's mother, and never really had a life of her own and never been just Fran. She was having a sort of midlife crisis where she saw her chance to life the sort of life she wanted passing her by...but at the same time she was trying to have it both ways, having her flings and romances and adventures, but always going back to her accepting husband in the end.

When he leaves her, Fran is suddenly getting what she wanted, to be on her own, and she realizes she doesn't want it. Really, she lacked the maturity and grace to be a success on her own before, and the shock of him leaving her might (maybe) force her to realize that it's time to grow up and take responsibility for herself. I can see Fran still going around being the snobbish flirt who tries to pass herself off as younger than she really is....but I hope she comes to her senses and accepts herself, and her age, and works with what she has.

"Value your education. It's something nobody can ever take away from you." My mom.

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When he leaves her, Fran is suddenly getting what she wanted, to be on her own, and she realizes she doesn't want it. Really, she lacked the maturity and grace to be a success on her own before, and the shock of him leaving her might (maybe) force her to realize that it's time to grow up and take responsibility for herself. I can see Fran still going around being the snobbish flirt who tries to pass herself off as younger than she really is....but I hope she comes to her senses and accepts herself, and her age, and works with what she has


I think your prediction of her likely behavior in the future is pretty darn accurate. And one can hope that she'd change, somewhere down the line. It's not dissimilar to another classic also named after a kind-hearted and undervalued husband, Mr. Skeffington.

Of course in the latter film, we know Fanny (Bette Davis) isn't in love with Skeffington (Claude Rains), and doesn't appreciate him until, um, later in the picture. (I know this is an old movie and if you've watched Dodsworth chances are you're a big enough film buff to have seen Mr. Skeffington too, but I'm still using spoilers and being relatively vague, just in case!). I don't remember if we get a sense in Dodsworth whether young Sam and Fran started out deeply in love. (I haven't read the book, but I believe that Sinclair Lewis did include some background of their early courtship/marriage.)

The topic reminds me of a Louis C.K. bit.

“Divorce is always good news. I know that sounds weird, but it’s true because no good marriage has ever ended in divorce. That would be sad... If two people were married and ... they just had a great thing and then they got divorced? That would be really sad. But that has happened zero times.


Of course it's a joke, but there is some truth to it. Sam and Fran were unhappy together, and the divorce gave both of them the opportunity to find their happiness elsewhere, whether that was with new partners, new experiences, or new outlooks. Sam certainly found it with Edith. Fran? We'll always wonder.

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