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If Scarface was remade more like the original

posted 20 years ago by mercury4
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If the remake was more like this movie I think Robert DeNiro would've been perfect to play Tony Camonte and Joe Pesci would've been great as his friend Guino Rinaldo. They were a great team. I thought they were the best in Raging Bull. You would think they really were brothers watching that movie. Also in Raging Bull DeNiro's jealousy over his wife sets him off to go after his brother. In Scarface Tony's over-protective way with his sister sets him off to kill his best friend. Robert Loggia was very good as Frank, but I could also see Frank Vincent in the role. If they were definitely going to get Al Pacino to play Tony Camonte then he could pull it off, but then I would want to see John Cazale as Rinaldo. They were a great team in Godfather Part 1 and 2. They were also a great team in Dog Day Afternoon. They worked well together. While Steven Bauer was very good as Manny he wouldn't be right for Rinaldo. A lot of people are probably going to disagree with this one, but I could also see Sylvester Stallone as Tony. Don't think of him when he became an action hero. Think of the great actor you saw in Rocky and First Blood. When Rocky came out they were comparing him to Al Pacino and Marlon Brando.

Had the movie been remade even earlier like in the 50's or 60's I could see Marlon Brando as Tony. I know I might be pushing it, but I could see James Dean in the role too.

Does anyone have any other suggestions?

[–] Whistler718 20 years ago

Pacino is about 65 now, Deniro maybe 60, Pesci probably the same as Deniro, Stallone perilously close to 60 if not yet - they're all waaaaaay too old for these parts. Tony shouldn't be over 35. Guino should be 8 or 10 years younger than Tony.

John Cazale died around 25 years ago. If he were still alive, though, he'd be close to 70 years old.

How about Benicio Del Toro as Tony?

[–] mercury4 20 years ago

No you're misunderstanding. I didn't mean if they made the movie now. I meant if the movie was made like this back in 1983. They're obviously all too old now and I know John Cazale is dead. Benicio Del Toro? No, he can't play an Italian. In the original his name was Tony Camonte. Maybe if he played Tony Montana. If they remade the Pacino Scarface like you're saying maybe John Leguizamo would be good as Tony. I'm talking about the remake made in 83' being more like the original. You know what I mean? Anyway, thanks for responding, I've been waiting on this message board a while for somebody to come.

[–] maloneyam 20 years ago

I don't think the Scarface released in '83 was necessarily a remake of this. Pacino's character, Tony Montana, was not even Italian, he was Cuban.

[–] TheFreewheelinAdam 20 years ago

John Cazale died in 1978, 5 years before they remade the movie

[–] mercury4 20 years ago

I know he did. I'm just saying what it would be like if he was alive. We already mentioned that.

[–] ClydeBickle 20 years ago

It would be good, but at that time everybody would be making the Raging Bull comparisons and that might hurt its reviews. I love De Palma's version, and the original is perfect and doesn't need to be remade.

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[–] the_el_man 20 years ago

"I don't think the Scarface released in '83 was necessarily a remake of this. Pacino's character, Tony Montana, was not even Italian, he was Cuban. "

Yes it was. it wasnt a copy. a REMAKE. in the 1930s the main organised crime was Italians and Bootlegging Alcohol. In the 1980s when Scarface made, there was a high concentration of Drug running in Miami and Cubans. hence the word Remake or update. not a Cover so to speak.

If it was done again today it probably would be set in some LA ghetto. just the way it is and the way it was.

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[–] martin_villafuerte85 19 years ago

I think if tobacco should be declared illegal (as said by US Surgeon General Richard Carmona), there would be a organised crime in any major city in the United States and probably the immigrants should be Afro-Americans.

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[–] JakeHeke 20 years ago

Benicio would be perfect as Tony!

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[–] theanomaly017 19 years ago

I seriously think that if they made the movie now, Johnny Depp would be a good choice in the lead role. Just watch Donnie Brasco.

[–] DelfonicB 19 years ago

Mercury,
You asked a really simple question for this post, and didn't get a single answer! Let me give you my answer, as I understood what you were asking.

I'd say the best Tony in 1983 would've still been Pacino. When it comes to Pacino and DeNiro, Pacino does better in the more animated roles....the more yelling and insanity, the better he fits the part.

Sorry my answer is so boring, but that's what I think. Now to answer everyone else's question.

Today, I think Michael Imperioli would be perfect. He's still underrated, and a good role such as this one would make his mark. On The Sopranos he's always very convincing...he's been a junkie, depressed, pissed, violent, loving, sympathetic, on the show I've seen his full range of an actor and think he could play a part like this.

[–] basketcasebelial 19 years ago

Posts like that beat a dog that's dead.

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[–] DelfonicB 19 years ago

No one answered the original question. The dog wasn't dead until I answered it.

[–] other-wise-wise 19 years ago

it couldn't work. movies like this, public enemy and little caeser have been copied and re-made and re-thought so many times that the movie would seem incredibly flat and un-orignal.

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[–] dagoatcheeze 19 years ago

no way affleck would suck i think pacino is totally the perfect fit. i mean seriously could you have seen affleck saying the famous "say hello to my little friend"

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[–] daveyh (623) 9 months ago

interesting that you've mentioned Sylvester Stallone, because a while ago, I watched a rather poor biopic on Al Capone from the 1970s, the only thing I remember was that Sylvester Stallone was in it, looks very young, presumably pre-Rocky. Can't even remember what the film was called or even who Stallone was playing, think he was one of Capone's underlings or bodyguards.
But he's featured in a movie set in that era, and more pertinently, Scarface is essentially the story of Al Capone, presumably they had to change names for legal reasons, but the St Valentines Massacre is in there, along with obviously the scar itself! So he's sort of been in a "remake" of Scarface, just not as the lead