Frederick March or Spencer Tracy?
Which was the better? I'd say that Frederick March was the better of the two, but Lana Turner's performance in the later version helped equalize the two movies...IMHO
shareWhich was the better? I'd say that Frederick March was the better of the two, but Lana Turner's performance in the later version helped equalize the two movies...IMHO
shareI agree. March is simply the definitive Dr. Jekyl/Hyde. However I feel that Miriam Hopkins brings so much to this film that she really should receive equal merit. Tracey's Jekyl/Hyde is comatose by comparison. Spencer holds back far too much and is unbelievable in the end.
shareI just recently saw both films.
First, I saw the Tracey version. I thought him to be all right but sort of boring. What stood out to me was Ingrid Bergman. Her performance (to me) made the movie.
Second, I saw the March version. His portrayal was far superior. As were both female supporting actors. I would highly recomend this version as the better one. The directing and special effect were better as well, which suprised me because it was made so much earlier.
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I agree, there's no match betwewen Fredric March and Spencer Tracy. Fredric March is so.....visceral; he gets into every pore in your body, every thought in your head, you want to bust open your soul and have Freddie's soul move in and cuddle up. Tracy is, at best, an oft-amusing chap who plays roles in movies that don't grate on your nerves too bad. Yep, christiandoig, you are right ... nooooo match between FM and ST at all! :)
Tracy's performance is underrated, because it's so subtle. It's all in the eyes. You can see every emotion both facets of Jekyll/Hyde feel. The scene in the fog, where he first transforms unwillingly, is simply beyond March's ability at any time during a brilliant career. March's Jekyll is almost a match for Tracy's, but his Hyde is all physical, without any of the evil Tracy shows in every least facial gesture. Nothing March does equals the hellish fury of Tracy's Hyde as he prepares to murder Ivy. This is to say nothing against March. Both men had stellar careers, but March didn't have the benefit of the Actor's Studio training where Tracy learned to inhabit a role from the inside out. They lock horns wonderfully, later in their careers, in "Inherit The Wind." I wouldn't want to have been without either of them, but as Jekyll/Hyde, Tracy wins. Just MHO.
shareTracy's performance is underrated, because it's so subtle. It's all in the eyes. You can see every emotion both facets of Jekyll/Hyde feel. The scene in the fog, where he first transforms unwillingly, is simply beyond March's ability at any time during a brilliant career. March's Jekyll is almost a match for Tracy's, but his Hyde is all physical, without any of the evil Tracy shows in every least facial gesture. Nothing March does equals the hellish fury of Tracy's Hyde as he prepares to murder Ivy.
Tracy was a hell of a lot better actor than March, as well. The March version of the film suffers from being made in an era in which American filmmakers hadn't yet discovered that films were an unique medium, rather than just recorded stage plays. Mamoulian makes a much better movie overall, but it's crippled by the over-the-top-of-the-top melodrama and insane overacting (characteristic of that inability to distinguish the stage from the screen). March was also saddled with that awful make-up job, the most idiotic idea in the movie ("Hey, he's supposed to be a bad guy--let's make him look like King Kong instead of a human being"). The Mamoulian movie is better, but Spencer Tracy beats March to a pulp in the role.
The March version was on TCM last night and film buff that I am, I'm almost embarrased that I missed it. I saw your comment above (albeit a year old), but I have to agree that her performance was amazing. She always had a tendecy to overact and upstage the other actor, but she underplayed this (given the times too) beautifully.
I liked that the film was pre-Code too. It got away with much more had it been released after 1934. While still tame by our standards,it's still pretty darned explicit.
Having finally now seen both, I think March wins. While the makeup is too much on a lot of levels, it makes sense. However, I do like the subtler change in character, as opposed to visage, in the Tracy version. However, Tracy underplays it too much. March would have been able to handle either version (and I'm a huge Tracy fan).
If only because he was supported by inventive filmmakers, as opposed to the star-driven remake.
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I think I must have missed something. I thought Ingrid Bergman's performance in the 40's version was laughable. What an accent!!
shareFor me March is much better as Jekyll and Hyde. Tracy is good as Hyde but his Jekyll is just ok. Ingrid Bergam stole the 1941 movie.
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March was a little hammier, but much better suited for the part; Spencer Tracy looked downright uncomfortable in it. However, Ingrid Bergman's performance as the unlucky Ivy far surpassed Miriam Hopkins in terms of hysteria, and subtle nuances, and seemed to build up more sexual tension than the former.
sharewhat about John Barrymore, how do you think he did?
shareBarrymore's version certainly produced the most INHUMAN Hyde imagineable. Such a scuttling shadow of darkness he is!
That leering close up shot of Hyde's face after he's torn out the guy's throat is literally the stuff of nightmares. And that savage beating he gives him beforehand! I can't believe they even put that on film in the silent era.
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What I don't understand is, if the version in which March starred was originally a Paramount film, why is it now under MGM release?
shareMGM bought the rights to it when they went into production on their version for the sole purpose of keeping it out of circulation, so there would be no competition with their Spencer Tracy version.
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Definitely John Barrymore - the best Jekyll/Hyde!
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Having watched the March and Tracey versions one after the other on the double release DVD, I'd rate March's performance the better by a long way. Likewise the supporting cast and especially the photography. The 31 version I found to be totally engrossing and probably the best horror movie I've seen in decades, maybe the best ever.
Tracey actually looks more attractive as Hyde! The female leads in the 41 version seem miscast. Bergman looks lovely, though. Compared with the magnificent sets and photography in the 31 version, the MGM version looks flat and uninspired. No wonder MGM bought and buried the earlier version away for so long.
I've never had the pleasure of seeing the silent version, alas.
There is no topping March in this role. You can tell he revelled in it. The voice, body language and overall tone of his performance is a masterwork. His work prior to film was in light comedy... Hyde is pure genius.
FREDRIC MARCH... by a long margin... such a terrific turn... one of my fave actor's career-best performances.
and ROUBEN MAMOULIAN's directing... superb and very inventive what with the subjective camera POVs, the slow dissolves, extreme close-ups taken straight from the silent era... the film benefits tremendously from its Pre-Code release period...
MIRIAM HOPKINS and all the players are very good as well.
Definitely FREDRIC MARCH.
I saw the 1941 version last night and found it deadly dull.
Besides, SPENCER TRACY looked like he was sleepwalking through the part, whereas MARCH is a force of nature.
The former is much better directed. ROUBEN MAMOULIAN uses superb and innovative camera moves and techniques such as subjective POV, extreme close-ups, well-placed dissolves, etc... all of which help us "get" into the mind of the protagonist(s).
Besides, being a pre-Code movie, the 1931 version benefits in the MIRIAM HOPKINS striptease scene and other areas as well.
That said, I do like the more "natural" look of the 1941 Hyde. He is not the grotesque figure of the 1931 version and thus seems more like a natural extension of the DR. JEKYLL.
The times obviously had much to do with the differences in both versions. The 40s was the time of the "introspective hero" -- as seen in many noir films of the period -- hence TRACY internalizes much more than MARCH. It kinda defeats the purpose though since HYDE is the id to JEKYLL's (super)ego.
i think that both fredric march and spencer tracy played both rolls very well. i like the concept of the 1941 film, where the make-up isn't as dramatic. from what i remember, mr. hyde is described as a dwarfish man with a displeasing smile. i do not recall mr. hyde being described as a horrific monster with displeasing features. the transformation from jekyll-to-hyde is specifically a personality change, and not an all-out physical change.
shareI've recently bought the DVD of both versions, and the March version is better.
(But then again, I still haven't seen the John Barrymore version)
I thought Tracy was completely menacing as Hyde, his leer was completely believable and frightening. Bergman was great as well, ins spite of her nordic/cockney accent troubles.
shareI just viewed both films on DVD, and I must say that both Fredric March and Spencer Tracy were both EXCELLENT in their own distinct acting styles and in the ways they both played their characters. Each actor had TOP DIRECTORS, Rouben Mamoulian with March, and Victor Fleming with Tracy, you couldn't go wrong here!! March's role was during the early sound period in the early 30's and the acting style suited that period with creaky sounds, grotesque features, heavy emotions, etc compared to the soft, lush, elegant charms of the early 40's with Tracy. Both actors conveyed strength, courage, rage, horror, and tragedy in such a convincing, forceful way. Cheers and Bravo to great performances from March and Tracy!!!
sharewell, i think March looks like a monkey acting like a clown so my vote goes to spencer tracy, but he wasn't perfect too, tought.
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i like the concept of the 1941 film, where the make-up isn't as dramatic. from what i remember, mr. hyde is described as a dwarfish man with a displeasing smile. i do not recall mr. hyde being described as a horrific monster with displeasing features. the transformation from jekyll-to-hyde is specifically a personality change, and not an all-out physical change.
It's a bit of a physical change, but you're correct that, in the original story, Hyde just looks like a normal person, expicitly described as having nothing physically out-of-the-ordinary about his appearance, but exuding a very negative aura. The earlier film version turns him into a monster that doesn't even look human, something that couldn't even show its face in public without causing a panic. This significantly harms the film. The minimalist approach in the Tracy remake is an improvement on every level.
I've just watched the 1941 verson. Spencer Tracy is really great as Mr Hyde. His eyes bulged with an evil gleam and was really dreadful(so as the expression on his face). Ingrid Bergman did have great chemistry with Spence.
I've never seen the 1931 verson but I've looked at the images. I felt really sick while looking at March's monkey-look Hyde. No doubt Spence's Hyde is more attractive to see.
March is by far the superior, as both Hyde and the arguably more difficult Jekyll. Tracy didn't seem intellectual enough as the doctor, and just wore a bad hair-piece as Hyde.
Spencer Tracy is really great as Mr Hyde. His eyes bulged with an evil gleam and was really dreadful(so as the expression on his face).
One of the high point scenes in the remake was when Ivy comes to see him as he's Jekyll--the look on his face suggests Hyde may be about to burst forth at any second. Excellent work.
Well I would choose Spencer Tracy, especially when it came to playing Mr. Hyde, it's less makeup (better that way imo) but still manages to be creepy.
In this version, the acting was kinda stiff in the beginning but picks up later on as he changes into Hyde, but I really didn't like how Hyde looked in this, too much caveman and less of a split personality like appearance like Tracy's.
I still give this film an 8/10.
I use to own the John Barrymore version on VHS but sold it now regret it, now I want to see it again and compare, I remember it being pretty good!
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The Barrymore version is now available on really inexpensive DVDs.
shareI saw Spencer Tracy and Ingrid Bergman's version of the film first and always loved it--what interested me was seeing Bergman play such a "sleazy" role, it was a little surprising for me to see her behaving in a manner that I wasn't used to. Tracy was good in both roles, but after seeing Frederick March's extraordinary performance, I'd have to say he was the best. It's amazing to watch how Jekyll's enthusiasm, passion and zeal for life turns into Hyde's more malevolent and sinister version. The scene where Ivy is celebrating Hyde's apparent demise only to see him slowly open the door and menacingly walks down the stairs towards her never fails to give me chills. March really outdid himself in this role.
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