Differences Between Versions
What are the differences between the 2, 4.5, and 7 hour versions other than length. I would guess that no one has seen the 7 hour version, but what about the released version and the older version?
shareI'm not sure about the differences between the lost versions but I can tell you about the differences between the surviving version (133 minutes) and the restored version using photos (239 minutes). It is a representation of the fullest version of Greed. If you don't feel like reading all of this another post says that the full version of Greed is on youtube.
-in McTeague's childhood there are new scenes of his abusive and alchholic father. He abuses the mother and dies of a heart attack.
-McTeague's dental practices with Dr. Potter are shown.
-McTeague moves into the flats as a dentist.
-Marcus is intoduced as an asocciate to Potter in a 'Dog Hospital'.
-Maria is introduced as a woman who goes around and asks for 'junk' from people on Mac's flats.
-Grannis is intoduced as a man who has a secret love with Ms. Baker. (They listen to each other from their rooms next to each other)
-Trina is introduced. She makes toys for Uncle Oelbermann.
-Marcus drops by Trina's family who have mischievous boys.
-Maria brings junk to Zerkow who holds a junk shop. She tells a story of her father (from Mexico) who has thousands of gold plates.
-At a picnis Trina falls from a swingset and chips her tooth. Marcus gets her to go to the dentist's office (McTeague).
-Mac becomes obsessed with Trina.
-After the day at the carnival Mac goes home with the Sieppe family. he sleeps in Trina's room and obsesses over her things.
-After Mac advances on Trina at the railway station Trina heads home and tells her mother. mac tells Marcus who willingly gives up Trina to Mac.
-Mac buys tickets for Trina, her mother and Little Owgooste to a play.
-When they get home there are extra congratulations as Trina gets news that she won the lottery. They head to Mac's parlor and they hold a party.
-Zerkow gets mad at Maria for selling the ticket to Trina.
-Trina stores money with Uncle Oelbermann.
*Not added but the knife throwing scene is moved before the wedding.
-Mac tells Trina about Marcus and his knife.
-The wedding is extended a little.
-Maria and Zerkow are married. Zerkow marries her because he wants to know where the golden plates are.
-Mac and Trina see Marcus at a parade down town.
-Mac buys the house and Trina gets mad at him. Trina gives him money to make up for their quarrel but secretly hides money for her.
-Zerkow starts to get mad at Maria for not telling him about where her father's golden plates are.
-Trina and Mac plan a picnic where Marcus ends up being invited. mac and Marcus fight. Both suffer injuries.
-Zerkow beats Maria in drunken rage. Maria runs to Marcus to protect her.
-Trina sells belongings at auction. Grannis buys back their wedding picture for them.
-Trina gives some money to Mac from auction but keeps some for herself.
-Mac tries to regain job as dentist (just an intertitle).
-Trina finda Maria dead from Zerkow. Police find Zerkow in SF Bay(he commited suicide).
-Trina suffers bad dreams of Maria's death.
-Grannis and Baker finally talk to each other. They share a cup of tea. Grannis shows he sold his books and is just as rich as Trina.
-Trina buys Zerkow's place to save money.
-Mac becomes abusive and starts biting trina's hands.
-Grannis and Baker marry and get a door put between their rooms.
-Trina worries about Mac after he leaves.
-Trina has to have two of her fingers amputated. Mac hangs out at bar and gets drunk. trina withdraws all of her money from Oelbermann.
-Kids find Trina dead at their school (a pretty gruesome shot).
-Mac flees to where he grew up and becomes a miner. He hooks up whith Carter and they go quartz mining. they find quartz but Mac is disturbed in the day. He takes Carter's gun and flees into Death Valley.
-Pursuers interrogate Carter.
And that's just about it.
You've already given the details, ccewilliams, and you've made an impressive list. I'd only add that, in a general sense, the character of Zerkow (who isn't even in the 133 minute version) in the 239 epic is rather significant, and Maria Miranda Macapa is far more fleshed-out in the 239 minute version, a legitimate character rather than the flittering maid who has perhaps one or two minutes in the 133 minute rendition of the film.
thankyou cce williams!!!
cannot believe Mayer cut the four hour version after reading that, let alone the 8/9 hour one! wonder what could have been in there?
When Mac leaves Trina with a fishing rod and his canaries, in the 133 min version less than 5 mins later he goes to the school to get her to give him the money. I wonder if the full length version of the film showed Mac traveling around inbetween these two bits?
Anyone read the book and can say what else will be missing?
What a film!
I have just watched this for the first time so I have only seen the restored 4 hr print (it was actually the only version I could find).
I am guessing what was added was all the still shots. I think without them the most significant thing that is lost is the addition of Grannis/Baker & Maria/Zerkow. I see this two couples as a reflection of what Trina/Mac could have been & what they eventually became. Perhaps you don't need the comparison to appreciate what has happened but it does add weight to the story & characters.
Although the early parts of the film must have went over my head because I missed the parts about Mac's childhood but reading about those parts that also seems to be a reflection of what was to come for Mac like he could not escape his past.