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Will invade Taiwan


By 2027 at the latest. But now the timetable has been changed to sooner….2024 perhaps.

It will be an Apocalyptic clash….of epic proportions not seen since WWII. It will change the global dynamic for decades to come.

I would counsel people to start prepping for a very different world. I’d recommend that White Americans at least start following the Orania model to insulate themselves from the coming chaos.

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The US will get Taiwan destroyed with its belligerence. What we do not get is that we cannot hold the whole planet hostage while we create wars to fight other massive super-powers. How many have to die for American hegemony? China would never invade Taiwan if the US were not challenging it and arming Taiwan - like Taiwan can resist China. But I seriously doubt China will invade Taiwan.

The American model has crushed the American dream and destroyed the American middle class, and degraded our lifestyles to be much worse than all the other developed world. Bernie Sanders and Michael Moore showed us that. And our system is trying to go further to destroy Social Security and Medicare - go backwards in other words. But as long as it give the rich more money and power, the US will support it.

What is the Oriana model?

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https://asia.nikkei.com/static/vdata/infographics/xi-jinpings-37-year-plan-for-taiwan-reunification/

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/a-chinese-invasion-of-taiwan-is-coming/

They look primed to invade. Like with Ukraine…Washington fighting to the last Ukrainian would love to fight to the last Taiwanese…But circumstances are different. Washington can’t afford to lose Taiwan so it may have to get involved directly. That move could set up an apocalyptic clash…perhaps bigger than WWII battles.

The US military has been losing its edge vis a vis China and it has lately become more preoccupied with being woke than actual training…particularly the Navy…suffering from some high profile accidents due to incompetence and subpar training of its sailors.

This looming war has all the hallmarks of a Thucydides Trap; when an emerging power threatens to displace an existing great power as a regional or international hegemon. It would alter the global geopolitical landscape in profound ways.

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Even if China invades Taiwan, the US needs to butt out because there is really nothing we can do about it but let it get destroyed as Ukraine is being destroyed - not to mention touch of a massive world war. We can set courses on our aircraft carriers and they will all sit at the bottom of the ocean because all of us have hypersonic missiles that cannot be stopped. A lucky shot might take one attack out, but a burst of several hypersonic missiles would be impossible to stop.

You said it will alter the global landscape, but that is exactly what the US has been doing, with extreme violence and to the detriment of the people who live in all the countries we supposedly "own". We spend most of our money to feed gasoline to a global empire machine that creates little zones of denial, but massive entropy outside of those zones.

You also said Washington cannot afford to lose Taiwan, but the only way the US survives at this point as a world hegemon is to get support from the rest of the world, and the polls today show that most of the people in the world, when polled, say that the US is the country they most fear. They see through our propaganda, and cannot help but notice our toxic society, and ignorant, sick population.

Not only that, but in the West, Americans are the move exploited, with the least benefits, lowest lifespan, no Universal Health Care, no Free Education. We are totally screwing up, and yet we keep doubling down on stupid, where both parties are complicit in this because they both are funded and directed by massive money.

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Yeah it’s how empires end

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The Orania model?

It’s this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qVEcvdclrqo

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So, an ethnically pure white enclave in the middle of South Africa, that is your answer?

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Well the blue print of it. It can be in Idaho or Montana or Oregon.

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Ick. How do you think that would help ANYTHING?

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You don’t want to be in a majority non white city when shit hits the fan

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I am so SICK of you racist assholes. Good for you, you found a website where you can spread your toxic divisive hatred without getting checked by a mod. That suits me just fine, now everyone can see how disgusting you are and you have no shame about it what so ever.

Eww.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nel_5vtQ_GM

It’s much better than having this future.

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Hmmm... perhaps you deserve a NAFO fella also.
brux already got 2 in other threads. 🐶​ 🐶​

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I'm not watching your youtube video, Jesus.

You've already established what kind of demented person you are. I can't wait till we are all the same shade of brown so your type will be a part of bad history.

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I can't wait till we are all the same shade of brown so your type will be a part of bad history.

Now that is demented!

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Yeah how dare someone want to do away with racial hatred. 🙄

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As long as whites are wiped out…it’s all good.

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Not in any violent way, yes, I'm white, I'd like to see a future where we all get together and make the human race one color so that we won't be subjigating and hating people for skin color.

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And then we all sing Kumbaya. You know there’s a reason the Dodo went extinct…it had this same thought process

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A bird . . . wanted to do away with racism?

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Was too trusting of outsiders. Got made extinct

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You think that Dodos . . . trusted the people settling on Mauritius? You think that is why they went extinct?

I've heard of this before, never actually seen someone do it but I guess people anthropomorphize animals.

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CN will at one point take TW.

What America will do is up to the energy, weapon, pharma, media & banking complex that owns Washington and dictates politics and foreign policies.

Its happening right now - just look at Ukraine

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Ukraine is going to fall. I saw the map of Ukraine in 1922. It was a tiny little place, about 5% of the area it is today. Modern day Ukraine includes Russian areas like the so-called land bridge across the Black Sea to Odessa that used to belong to Russia. I think by next Spring and probably before the end of next year Russian will have absorbed all of that and reduced Ukraine to a landlocked mess that the US will not be able to load and aim again at Russia.

Companies work best for the people when there is competition, and I think this is true with the international community of nations as well. We in the US have to find a way to survive without being a feared international predator nation.

I don't agree with China taking Taiwan. There is no civil war going on in Taiwan, and currently Taiwan and China do huge trade with each other. I would prefer that Taiwan decide its own fate because it is a totally different situation and history than Ukraine.

But it is also important that what the US has been doing in the last hundred years in the world be transparent and understood. All the nations in the world need to start adhering to civilized rule of law. The US has no right to stand in judgement of Russia or China. I honestly wish we did - because that is how I was raised and taught and it sucks to find out how much BS that is.

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Technically, it's not "invade", because most countries and UN say Taiwan is a province to China.

You can't "invade" your own country.

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True. The One China policy is the greed that’s come back to bite Washington on their ass.

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China can have Taiwan for all I care. There's no good reason for the U.S. to get involved in a war and send hundreds of thousands of young men over there to get killed and crippled.

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I agree, but also, not to mention, we do not have the power to do it, and if we did, that would be awful. I mean think of it. The US invents Terminator style robot soldiers powered by AI who can invade a country by remote control and target weapons to destroy assets at will. How soon before we see that technology turned back on Americans?

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Who is "we" for you, dear brux? 😉​

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Go ahead, just be a mindless troll and call me Ivan or Boris or Putin.
But, just for the record I am American born and bred, and "we" refers to my people and my government. No need for the fake affectations either "dear" ... what a putz.

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There is a catch-22 here. If the US did not threaten, propagandize, arm and train Taiwan, China would not be doing anything. The minute the US starts this morally superior story and propagates it like Trumpianism around America the Chinese see how that works and they get their hackles up.

America has always maintained its power and hegemony by exploiting countries around the world, and that mode of existence in the international community, for better or worse, and there are both aspects at play in that, is starting to become unacceptable. This country and the world has changed, and American Conservatives and plutocrats don't like it and want to turn back history just as much as the aristocrats of Europe did hundreds of years ago.

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I've good news for you: there will no war, no single bullet will fire.

I'm from Taiwan, our most electricity come from gas, ship weekly. China can simply blocks ports, without electricity, Taiwan will surrender.

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I'm so sorry!

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Sooner the better, too many asshats on Earth. Humans need major wars every century or so to keep population in control.

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Always liked that idea!...every second should 'leave'.
Therefore created the counting rhyme 1-2.
I'm #1 and you're #2. 😉​

What's about better birthcontrol?
Please, not the forced Chinese one-child policy.
A little late China realized their lack of women by it.

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