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How many people did he trample?

posted 3 years ago by kuatorises (7467)
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That 9 year old that is in a coma, did Scott step on his head? What about the 14 year old that died? Did Scott curb stomp him?

I hate scapegoating. I fucking HATE. IT. It's mindless and nothing more than a mob mentality.

Scott did not know there were dead people at his show, use your fucking heads. This guy would not continue the show knowing people were being killed. No one does that. Even if he gets charged with reckless behavior or something akin to inciting a riot, he's still not the one who fucking did it.

There are people who walked over other human beings, and chose to do this, to get closer to a fucking stage at a concert. No one made them do this. No one can make you do this. They chose to and they are the people most responsible for this - - and NOTHING will happen to them.

[–] elcamino (15540) 3 years ago

8 confirmed dead with 11 more going to the hospital with cpr. It might add up more as some will be brain dead.

[–] furiousstyles (4392) 3 years ago

He was told about the incident but continued on carry on , hes also had multiple arrest for inciting crowd trouble, this was an accident waiting to happen and he and the organisers should be held accountable.

[–] furiousstyles (4392) 3 years ago

Oh and never heard of this punk and his music is fucking shite, suprised a crowd even formed to hear this shit

[–] kuatorises (7467) 3 years ago

"Travis Scott made me riot, your honor" is not a valid defense and in no way absolves the individuals who KILLED PEOPLE.

A person who commits a straw purchase committed a crime, but it ain't murder.

[–] whynotwriteme (7815) 3 years ago

If The Who and Pearl Jam can man up and own it for their concert trampling disasters, why can't this person? And his inciting behavior seems far more culpable than theirs, if you ask me.

[–] kuatorises (7467) 3 years ago

Inciting behavior is worse than said behavior? Stop.

[–] whynotwriteme (7815) 3 years ago

You misunderstood. What I was saying is that Scott incited his audience to stampede far more than The Who and Pearl Jam incited theirs.

[–] kuatorises (7467) 3 years ago

I don't give a flying fuck if he grabbed the mic and said, "Kill the person net to you.", the people who did it are still the biggest culprits. This isn't debatable.

[–] whynotwriteme (7815) 3 years ago

Kind of figured you would think that way.

[–] JoWilli2 (855) 3 years ago

PJ didnt incite anything, it was just an accident.

[–] MuffCabbage (452) 3 years ago

bout tree fiddy

[–] AnubisRaydeen (7897) 3 years ago

I heard that several of the people he trampled had injection marks in their necks. Hmmm. Is there anyone missing?

[–] Otter (24464) 3 years ago

When the scandal broke I wondered how possible it was for a performer who's on stage with lights shining in his eyes, speakers shaking the stage under him, and a prompter in his ear to tell what was going on with the crowd. At first, I wondered if he had any idea what was going on, if he could see the mayhem or hear all the people yelling at him to stop the show.

Then I found this at Bored Panda:

https://www.boredpanda.com/musicians-were-decent-human-beings/?utm_source=bing&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic

Apparently it is possible for a musician to be perfectly aware of trouble in the crowd, and to stop the show and help. So that doesn't mean that Scott is guilty of manslaughter or anything, but after reading this I think he's morally culpable. And probably as suable as hell.

[–] kuatorises (7467) 3 years ago

"These people saw what was going on in the crowd at their shows, therefor Scott did at his own" is not a valid argument. You have to prove that he saw it and ignored it, which is entirely possible, but other people saw at different events isn't proof of anything. Other people at other concerts aren't the issue.

If it's proven he was negligent, he's still not the primary party responsible for these people's deaths. He's not the reason those people died. "He told me to riot" is not a valid defense. I don't have a problem punishing him for negligence or reckless behavior, but he didn't kill anyone. The same can't be said of the crowd. And they're going to get away with it too because they won't even bother looking for them. It's easier to blame the people who ran the concert. The people with money. There's no pay day in pressing charges against the regular folk.

Travis Scott didn't bring a 9 year old to a concert, that kid's dumbass father did.Travis Scott didn't trample that kid, the crowd did. Dad and crowd are MORE (meaning he could bear some) culpable than Scott.

[–] Otter (24464) 3 years ago

Yes, the people who ran the concern with mob seating and inadequate security are primarily responsible, but Scott has his name on the festival and is presumably a part owner, so it looks like he has a share in that culpability as well as his own.

It really does look like he's in a bad legal position. He's been fined twice more for inciting mayhem in his audiences, and apparently makes a habit of urging fans to behave unsafely. He's apparently a part owner of the festival and if so he'd have a share of legal responsibility there. Anbd the public blames him for failing to do what those 20 other musicians did and stop the concert, well, that may or may not be correct and I'm not sure if his onstage conduct is legally actionable... but well. An entertainer relies on the good will of the public, and if the Court of Public Opinion decides he's to blame for this his mainstream appeal is over.

I've heard that the festival's insurance policy covers only $26 million worth of adverse events, so he's in financial trouble as well as legal.

[–] kuatorises (7467) 3 years ago

"Yes, the people who ran the concern with mob seating and inadequate security are primarily responsible"

Wrong. The people who killed others are primary parties responsible.

[–] modica (4169) 3 years ago

He has a history of inciting mayhem in the crowd. It is well known. What happened during this show needs to be investigated. The full story needs to be uncovered.

[–] kuatorises (7467) 3 years ago

Would the full story involved prosecuting the people who actually killed the victims?

[–] joej2923 (3145) 3 years ago

He should be held accountable if he encouraged them to RAGE. I hope all of his nonsense is caught on video. He's been arrested a few times for inciting a riot but he has plead down to lesser charges. This time, they better lock him up in prison for inciting a riot.

There is video in the Daily Mail article below of him encouraging people to jump over security barriers to RAGE and he also tried to get people to jump off balconies. The TMZ article shows him commenting on people that were injured at his shows. He is similar to Trump in the way he feeds off wild crowds and encourages them to commit acts of violence.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10174643/Travis-Scott-pled-guilty-TWICE-encouraging-fans-rush-stage.html

https://www.tmz.com/2021/11/10/travis-scott-has-clear-history-of-promoting-violence-injury-at-his-shows/

[–] kuatorises (7467) 3 years ago

"He should be held accountable if he encouraged them to RAGE."

"This time, they better lock him up in prison for inciting a riot. "

And do what with those who actually rioted?

[–] joej2923 (3145) 3 years ago

I doubt most of the festival attendees are intelligent enough or sober enough to be prosecuted for stupid behavior. I think they could prosecute Scott since he likes seeing the chaos at his concerts. The song below by Scott even refers to the injuries suffered by people in mosh pits so he knows that people will be hurt in the bedlam.

https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/4024351/travis-scotts-disturbing-lyrics-astroworld/

[–] kuatorises (7467) 3 years ago

They can't be prosecuted because they are stupid and drunk? What;the fuck?

[–] joej2923 (3145) 3 years ago

The young man who was assaulted by the army sergeant in Columbia, SC got out of his trials for being mentally unfit but that may not be the same as having a low IQ. The Atkins vs Va court case did exempt low IQ people from the death penalty so there are instances when the law makes exceptions for low IQ individuals. If somebody is drunk or high, they would not necessarily have intent or any recollection of committing a crime.

https://www.oyez.org/cases/2001/00-8452 ***Atkins vs VA court case ***

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9480657/Black-man-confronted-Army-drill-sergeant-mentally-ill.html

[–] kuatorises (7467) 3 years ago

I repeat, they can't be prosecuted because they are stupid and drunk? But Scott.. throw the book at him. What. The. Fuck?!