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Will a Harris loss spell the end of the DEI craze?


If/when Harris loses, I imagine that Democrats will start asking questions about what went wrong. They will likely admit that they were forced to give her the nomination at least in part because of her identity. I actually heard that some on the left would have been really upset if they passed over her in order to recruit a white man (e.g. Gavin Newsom). In other words, the hand of the Democrats was forced by DEI, and they lost because of it.

Will this spell an end to the craziness of DEI that we have seen so much of in the past decade or so? We can only hope, but the woke crowd is anything but rational. I suspect that what would happen is we'd see a split in the Democratic Party between old school pragmatists who still realize merit trumps wokism, and naive woke idealists who simply want to push identity. Each would be fighting over the bigger pieces of the pie for the direction of the party. The pragmatists would point to Harris' loss as proof that DEI adventures end in heavy losses, and the woke idealists would probably hunker down and threaten to take their votes somewhere else.

Whatever happens, the developments will be interesting.

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Hopefully it ends the ridiculous idea of trying to make a woman President.

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A Harris win will put an end to your ridiculous idea that the idea of a woman president is ridiculous.

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See a doctor. Your knee jerks too easily.

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Your response is also ridiculous.

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Profound. Write a book.

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Don't feed the trolls. I have faith in America that REAL PEOPLE don't think this way.

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The ridiculous idea is that a female political leader is somehow automatically better than a male one. In the UK we've had three female prime ministers, and all have been awful. Thatcher crushed the unions, sold off state assets and ruined the housing market; May committed to a hard Brexit because she was too weak to stand up to her backbenchers; and Truss crashed the economy and lasted a pathetic 49 days in office. The UK's experience shows that the political system acts as a filter to allow only the most egotistical and delusional people to become leaders. Their sex is irrelevant.

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There was also the prime minister of New Zeland that also quit because she could handle the pressure of the job and was one of the b8ggest authoritarian during Covid. I don't know her or know much about European politics.

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Thatcher won three elections. An incredible woman. RIP.

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She was a disaster for the UK and we're still feeling the effects of her recklessness today. Her supply-side boost was weak and unrepeatable, while she did lasting damage to the housing market, industrial strategy and the labour market. She gave us privatisation, neoliberalism and deregulation. Her policies tore up communities and the social compact between people and the state. She destroyed the mining communities and offered no support or retraining. Hers was a selfish, short-termist and destructive ideology that benefited the rich at the expense of the poor. Once again, she was a disaster for the UK.

Also, if your metric for the worth of a political leader is the number of elections won, I imagine you're similarly enamoured of Tony Blair, given that he also won three general elections.

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Wrong, Thatcher was considered by many a great PM. Just because you have your personal opinions, doesn't make them facts.

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The problem with politics today is that nobody ever starts "asking questions about what went wrong". Instead, they just double-down on what they've already been doing, congratulate themselves for their "integrity", and tell themselves that they are at the forefront of a movement and eventually everyone else will catch up and realize how brilliant they are. The political landscape of today is no longer about finding your electorate - it's now about CREATING your electorate.

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It will make things worse from a DEI perspective if she loses.

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I doubt some conservative will ever stop screaming DEI for any candidate who isn’t a heterosexual, white male.

Those who cannot seem to look past skin color, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, etc., will always see DEI and never bother with piddly little things like qualifications.

Those calling her Harris DEI are what’s holding back this country.

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I sure hope so. Trying to one up DeSantis with Hurricane Milton bearing down on Florida-Disgusting! And you want to vote for this cackling hen? We can just guess what she'd do in the middle east. And Russia? ha ha ha, Putin would fall out of his chair laughing so much!

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Trying to one up DeSantis? Um, no.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZNL_CmSWWQ

At about 1:47, she was told that it was reported that DeSantis was ignoring her calls. She responded that this is a time to put politics aside and be a leader.

I took that to mean that she wasn't going to engage in petty bickering and simply focus on what needed to get done.

Putin invaded Ukraine, a sovereign nation. The US is one of the nations providing support. Putin is not getting his way. Trump might speak about negotiating peace, but he is really proposing that Ukraine surrender to Putin. Putin only wants Trump to be President because all evidence points to Putin have Trump wrapped around his finger.

There is zero evidence to suggest that Putin is intimidated by Trump, and there is ample evidence to indicate that Putin would lose under a Harris/Watz administration (because they will not coddle him, kiss up to him or be intimidated by him).

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The biggest threat to this country are simple-minded automatons who believe in any bureaucratic scam as long as it's flown under the radar as politeness.

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As opposed to the "simple-minded automatons" who believe anything Trump says, even though he lies any time his lips are moving and is never remotely polite?

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Now that Trump has basically won, will the DEI craze come to an end?

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Sadly, I suspect many on the left will double down on their vilification of whites and men. I expect politicians will be more pragmatic though.

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DEI would be doing better if its beneficiaries had a modicum of competence, but for some reason it never works out that way.

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