Picked only because she's a woman and a "person of color" to satisfy the identity politics obsessions of the bourgeoisie of the Democratic Party that has nothing to do with a truly progressive or leftist spirit. A Biden/Harris administration would be just as pro-business, imperialistic, and rightwing as Trump, though not as overtly grotesque and uncouth.
share"A Biden/Harris administration would be just as pro-business, imperialistic, and rightwing as Trump, though not as overtly grotesque and uncouth."
So, very slight progress then, as opposed to none at all under Trump.
It's the choice between Tweedledee and Tweedledum, or Thing 1 and Thing 2. If the American people want to see real progressive change, they'll smash both of these utterly worthless political parties which are beholden only to the plutocrats. Yes, Trump is awful, but Biden/Harris are equally despicable.
share"Biden/Harris are equally despicable"
It's a calculated risk I'm willing to take at this point.
You're very brave. I wouldn't risk it in a million years.
shareI sat out the last election. I'm not going to do it twice. I'll take my chances.
shareBest bet then is to vote for Biden. At least we know Biden can be controlled like a puppet for us progressives. A vote for Biden will be a big first step to remaking America
shareWell, Biden will immediately hand over to Harris as he's clearly not well. Then you're back to Obama era nonsense. Considering how the Dems have handled the looting, BLM and antifa terrorists, that's not somewhere I'd want to live.
share"Obama-era nonsense" you mean a stable USA. Oh the huge manatee!
shareBiden/Harris in 2020. Get out and vote
shareI'm talking about the "we're perfect and do no wrong" stuff along with the rampant cronyism that everyone seems to ignore.
shareAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Riiiiight.
Because Trump often and foremost admits his mistakes and takes the heat when he makes a mistak. Uh huh!
Thank god he has his close family members and personal friends in high profile White House positions making decisions that affect life and death during this pandemic as well. I'm sure they all got there due to heavy vetting and most importantly personal merit.
Perhaps I could have worded that better. I never said Trump was perfect but I dislike how the Dems act like they aren't exactly like Republicans when it comes to that kind of stuff.
shareWhen did any Democrat say they were perfect? Give me an example from today, this month, these past 3 years.
shareSpecifically that Obama claims his presidency was free from scandal when it obviously wasn't.
sharewhen compared to Trump no it wasn't as bad but he never claimed perfection either.
shareSorry to say it but Trump has done a great job despite the rabid hate and opposition from the Democrat party who doesn't care one iota about the people or the country. I pray you don't get what you think you want.
shareAll I'm saying is if you dislike both candidates, the best best is to vote for Biden. I am a progressive, or what you would say far left. The progressives can control Biden, unlike Trump. Biden/Harris can call themselves moderates, but the moderates in the democrat party have begun being taken over by progressives. Moderate voters in the democrat party are referred to as useful idiots by the progressives. But we will need as many of those useful idiots to get the change we want in this country
shareAnd progressives are all about controlling people, so thank you for at least admitting that.
shareControl is mandatory until a new America is formed. We need the moderates in the democrat party, who we call the useful idiots, to come out strong for Biden. Biden will easily be swayed by us progressives. Progressives have taken over the democrat party for the better of the country
shareThe majority of Americans don't want "a new America". If you do, hit up Venezuela or some other liberal, utopian paradise.
shareI can’t tell if you’re bullshitting or not, but you’re definitely a lunatic. I call bullshit ultimately though. Nobody thinks what you just said is a good idea, and no real person talks like that in a serious fashion, except insane nut jobs of course.
Have a nice day.
You are an obvious troll.
No progressive pushes for control.
No progressive needs to worry about moderates not voting for Biden.
No progressive uses the Rush Limbaugh phrase democrat party.
No progressive would boast how easy it would be to control Biden when every progressive knows for damn sure the DNC is running the show as it always has.
Biden/Harris 2020. Take your Trump BS elsewhere. This board is for the winners
shareI'm a progressive.
I can spot a fake a mile away.
Democrat party. lol. Nice try kid.
So we're on the same side. Why you trying to pick a fight?
shareIt's rather sad how Trump's base can't tout their support of him and instead run around screaming that Biden's a "commie" LOL
shareRight. Or they run around pretending to be a progressive that says Biden will be controlled by the far left when no progressive believes that.
shareNeither Biden or Trump is the answer to Americas future. The country needs heavy progressive policies to make it a more fair and noble country. Biden will get pulled by us on the far left. Putting Harris on the ticket is a start. She backs medicare for all and the abolishing of private health insurance. I'm not crazy about her time as prosecutor but Biden has made it clear he will redirect funds from the police who have been abusing their power in minority neighborhoods for decades.
shareYou should educate yourself and look up Trump's great achievements that the liberal media won't talk about.
shareKindly list Trump's great achievements here, please.
shareDo your own research. There's plenty to be found. You won't though. Why let facts cloud your judgement?
shareFlaccid. I don’t need to research Trump, I’m living Trump. Can’t name one great Trump accomplishment then? 🤷🏻♂️
shareThe just struck Israel deal, lowest on record, black and minority unemployment (don't say anything about COVID, unemployment would be high regardless of who's president.), Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, new funding to fight opioid addiction, etc., etc., etc.
shareHe's about the only person in the country that (as president) did what I think is the most important --- take on the criminal communist Chinese. Bringing attention to their activities and how they are taking advantage of us is by far is greatest achievement.
Biden will end that for sure and the world will suffer if China is allowed someday to dominate the world.
Those are...things. But, great achievements? Is that what my extensive research would have uncovered? I'm not sure any of that would sway a truly undecided voter. Killing, albeit horrible, brown people? A kick back to help continue the disastrous war on drugs? You mentioned something about great achievements? Pulled us out of the Iran nuclear arms deal. Pulled us out of the Paris climate agreement. Damaged what little gains Obama was able to make toward a more sane health care system. (You understand a supermajority of those on my side of the ticket want to see health care expanded universally.) Caused thousands of children to separated from their families under inhumane conditions. etc., etc., etc.
shareThe Israel deal is momentous! The Paris Accord and the Iran nuclear deal were both disastrous and he thankfully got us out of them. You don't call the lowest black, Hispanic, Asian and woman unemployment EVER great? Wow! Health care does need work but Obama care was a disaster (and lies). The child separation and the cages were both going on before Trump so knock that nonsense off also killing of brown people? Get real. Nothing to do with Trump. More "brown people" kill "brown people" than anyone else.
shareYou know what actually will be disastrous for many generations to come, my kid's generation, and theirs? The president and his followers attitude toward our worsening climate catastrophe. Biden will at least try, in vain, because we're fucked, to make progress in that direction. Kid, you got a lot to learn.
shareLol. You're clearly immune to learning.
I pray I'll be gone by the time you get what you think you want.
LOL - the response to your question by chilone says it all doesn't it?
shareLesser of two evils, rinse, repeat, and would you lookee there, we ended up with evil again!
shareNo, less progress with them than Trump because anything done under Bidden will be the same thing Trump would do when it comes to hurting the little guy... only with Bidden he will be able to get what he wants, Trump is too stupid to get things done so unless you want higher taxes you are better off with an inept Trump that can't get anything done than Bidden that will fuck everyone below the 1%ers.
shareThat's why Commies are voting Birthday Party 2020!
shareThe only people whining about the Left are Right Wingers who think they're conservative but lately have been busy calling elected Republicans RINOs and traitors while defending their partisan Right-leaning president.
looks like you're already conceding that you're gonna have trouble branding Biden/Harris as a Leftwing threat now.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
shareShe’s a moderate Republican. Wall Street investors will be happy if their ticket wins the presidency, the American people will continue to lose out.
sharebecause the American people who place themselves into thought camps (left and right) are stupid and gullible. Blaming "neocons" or "deep state" is a sign of mental deficiency and laziness.
shareI’d rather blame neolibs
shareYou should blame lazy Americans who don't vote at the local, county, state, and federal level more. They enable the small groups you think control everything but in the end it's the complicit lazy americans who enable all that is wrong
shareWell I would blame them, but corporations do their best to keep the general public uninformed and uneducated so they can continue to manipulate them.
shareCome on, you've been listening to Susan Sarandon too much...who incidentally said she's voting for Biden/Harris. Haven't you Socialists learned the lesson of 2000 and 2016 yet?!
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