no muscle mass whatsoever..
so skinny.
shareyes. but he cannot help this. it is genetic. he is born this way. even if he work out he cannot change much.
What a weird, misinformed way to come to his defense lol
sharei googles this man (have not heard him before, no seen film with him) and i see standard skinny man. he is probably vegans which does not help.
there are many man in bad shapes who can improve physics with diet and determination. but man like timothy have no choice. he is born with body of this types. he is like opposite of arnold schawzeneggers. he lose genetic lotteries for pumping iron.
Appreciate the response. I know that some guys will forever be a "beanpole", but most have the genetics to grow some muscle with hard work, diet and determination.
share"Appreciate the response"
no problem!
"but most have the genetics to grow some muscle with hard work, diet and determination."
yes most men are lucky enough to have this options. i dont think this man have that option, he exceptionally thin man. however he lucky most girl dont care about mans body (unless obese). it only seem to be us men who value muscle hahah. they look at this man face and that is it!
he has very thin bones. his arms are like those of a teenaged boy. there's nothing he can do about it. i just didn't realize how thin he was until i saw him in the movie bones and all.
shareyes i always feel bad when i see man like him. they have no choices.
many skinny man have room to be work out and improve body shapes but he have body of skinny girly woman. at least he have good face.
"even if he work out he cannot change much."
That's not true. It takes a LOT of hard work and discipline but he could get muscular if he wanted. There are also protein powders, muscle mass powders and stuff like that professional weightlifters use that he could use as well. People do it all the time.
no. this man is sub ectomorph. i know man like this. they pump iron for year and still look like vegan who starve. i am not criticise. i feel bad for man like this. they are lucky woman value bank acount and face over musle or they in deep shit hahahahahahah.
I dated a man like this. He was a beanpole. I ran into him 3 years later and he was into competitive bodybuilding. He worked his butt off to get there. It is possible. And any woman who values money over face isn't worth the effort.
shareWhat on earth are you blabbing about?
>but he cannot help this. it is genetic. he is born this way
Where are you finding this statement? From inside your diaper?
>there are many man in bad shapes who can improve physics with diet and determination. but man like timothy have no choice.
Hard gainers do exist. But if you put in hard work, improve your diet, you will gain muscle. This is a FACT.
Muscular dystrophy or other genetic diseases you're attempting to refer to are very, very rare. So rare you couldn't even name one. Even the one you claimed you had.
Timothée Chalamet does not have a genetic disorder preventing him from gaining muscle. You are lying.
You seem to be excusing your lack of hard work and blaming it on a "genetic defect" for some reason, then sprinkling gold dust on the turd by associating it with a skinny celebrity. It's the same as people who are overweight claiming they cannot lose weight and calories in, calories out does not work with them because of genetics.
To be fair, there does seem to be a small percentage of exercise "non-responders" who improve very little or not at all from training.
https://montrealgazette.com/health/diet-fitness/fitness-exercise-non-responders-is-the-clique-no-one-wants-to-join/
A lot of it has to do with what they're eating too. A beanpole I had dated became a competitive bodybuilder after 3 years of working his butt off. He told me to gain weight he beefed up his carb and calorie consumption then burned it off with running and swimming. He also used a lot of those protein powders and such. He looked fantastic!
shareYeah, I mean I think that most people can make at least some gains. A few can make a lot and look amazing. But it seems that studies have shown that in a small percentage of cases, some people's bodies just don't adapt.
I'm not sure if Chalamet is in the non-responder camp. But he does consistently look like a dude who's on an estrogen supplement.
Maybe he has no interest in working out and happy the way he is.
Then one year he'll get to play a boxer and get beefed up.
"some people's bodies just don't adapt."
Hard gainers, you just need to persist, and check you're doing everything right. You could be doing too much and over training, or not in taking enough protein, or your form is poor.
Your body will adapt eventually, and learn to accept the muscle. Once you get over that hurdle of teaching your body that it is going to change, and you're not going to stop, it will adapt and in future be ready for the same drastic changes. If you've been lazy all your life, then hit the gym, the body needs some time to figure out what's happening and what it should do. Some people get right into it, some are hard gainers.
Unless you're confirmed to have muscular dystrophy, but the chances of that are very, very slim.
You should read the article I linked to above about non-responders. It seems that there is a small portion of the population--who don't have muscular dystrophy--whose bodies just don't adapt to exercise.
shareFrom a blogger called Jill who looks like a soccor mom, at a Montreal newspaper. No thanks.
One of her fitness articles on weight loss says:
https://montrealgazette.com/health/diet-fitness/fitness-what-type-of-exercise-is-best-to-lose-weight
>What type of exercise is best to lose weight? There’s little consensus about what type of exercise is the most effective at getting rid of unwanted pounds.
I'm pretty sure it's cardio, Jill.
Then she waffles on for paragraphs about using resistance bands, and dancing around the answer without admitting that it's cardio/aerobic exercises.
Then eventually, she pulls a study into overweight people and weight loss through exercise.
Study confirms that yes, it is indeed cardio. Which everybody knew anyway, and this could have been a 3-word article "It is cardio".
Then she waffles for another few paragraphs. She must have a word quota on her useless blogs.
In the article you pulled, she again waffles on about various stuff for her word quota, then basically agrees with what I said.
>Still, for those non-responders who want to reap the full rewards of exercise, something as simple as modifying the workout will often kick-start results.
>the idea that more exercise is the only way to ensure results isn’t exactly good news for non-responders.
>Extending the time frame from which results are monitored — like waiting for 24 rather than 20 weeks to gather results
I covered that "Hard gainers, you just need to persist, and check you're doing everything right. You could be doing too much and over training, or not in taking enough protein, or your form is poor."
Persistence, make sure everything is right, and your body will respond.
In a lot of cases people want fast results, and are looking for serious gains too soon, within a few months, from doing zero body building before that, then call themselves hardgainers. Results are slow. It takes years to build your body without the use of chemicals. Everything has to be perfect and finding out what is perfect for your body takes time to learn also.
Once you hit that perfect spot, the gains will come faster until the next hurdle. After the newbie gains comes the plateau where you hit another dead end. Again persistence, then using your knowledge to perfect even more. Making more adjustments to your form, changing your routines as the body is used to the same old thing you're doing, even weighing your food, increasing protein intake and counting calories.
"there does seem to be a small percentage of exercise "non-responders" who improve very little or not at all from training."
Not at all? A bit disingenuous. Over what time frame are you taling, 5 weeks or 5 years? Not at all, zero results? The article doesn't even say hardgainers will not make any improvements. Slow progress in the first few months is what it says. Which is what body building is, slow progress, increments, and exactly what I'm saying, but you're determined to let it fly over your head.
Just do your own research. Look up "exercise non-responders" and go from there. That is just one of my articles you will find on the topic.
shareI've done my research on hard gainers. I made no claim that they do not exist. Looks like you didn't read a single letter of what I wrote, but poured over a useless blog with a fine tooth comb.
"some people's bodies just don't adapt."
Even your article said that this is wrong. "Just don't" is a very strong way to put it. I gave exert from YOUR article which proved your claim wrong, but you chose to ignore. Here:
>Still, for those non-responders who want to reap the full rewards of exercise, something as simple as modifying the workout will often kick-start results.
>the idea that more exercise is the only way to ensure results isn’t exactly good news for non-responders.
>Extending the time frame from which results are monitored — like waiting for 24 rather than 20 weeks to gather results
Like I said above, hard gainers do exist, but sometimes it's not that you're a hard gainer at all, you're looking for results too quickly within weeks or a couple of months and proclaiming that you're a hard gainer. Still failing after the first 6 months your form is poor, your diet is poor, not doing enough, doing too much, blaming a self diagnosed medical problem as you stare at your phone on the bench press with enough weight above you to pump 30 times, and a number of other factors which could slow you down. You need to figure out what is right for your body first. Your body doesn't even know in the early stages, so newbies should just write off the first few months as a learning process for mind and body.
"That is just one of my articles you will find on the topic."
From a blogger who basically agreed with what I said.
Persistence, diet, form, make sure everything is right, lift heavy 8-12 reps, and your body will respond.
The human body is designed to adapt. With some people it just needs a nudge to kick-start it, then you are good and onto the next challenge when the plateau hits after newbie gains.
Only rarely will Muscular dystrophy or other genetic diseases be a factor.
I read what you wrote. I am saying there's a difference between a hard-gainer and a non-responder. Also, I told you to go do your own research and that there are many other articles on the topic. It sounds like you don't want to do that and are committed to the idea that the exercise non-responder is a myth.
Fact is, different people have different genetic potential. Some more, some less. Some guys already look like they're on gear when they're 15 just because they have great genetics. Other guys can workout like a madman, get everything right with their diet, and put in a sustained effort, and show little in the way of results. Most people will be somewhere in the middle.
" I am saying there's a difference between a hard-gainer and a non-responder."
erm, it's the same thing. Some people name it differently. People in the bodybuilding world, actual people in the field, with a life experience in building muscle, and training people to build muscle call them hard gainers.
Oh, but please enlighten me the difference between a hard gainer and a non responder.
I'd love to hear you explain it! You picked this point, you pointed out that there is a difference. Please, oh please, fully explain the difference!
In your own words. No more links to blog post headlines. No more "trust me bro, just google it"
YOUR OWN WORDS.
If not, DO NOT REPLY!
>Fact is
You haven't presented a single fact. You presented a single BLOG post from a SOCCER MOM being paid per word! Which you didn't read, and only took the headline.
>are committed to the idea that the exercise non-responder is a myth.
haaa haaaaaa
Hard gainers exist! 3rd time or 4th time I told you?
Straw, clutch! haaa haaaaa
> different people have different genetic potential
So you're agreeing with what I said?
>Other guys can workout like a madman, get everything right with their diet, and put in a sustained effort, and show little in the way of results.
I can guarantee you have not spent a single minute in any gym. Your summations are at the most basic level. You fail to elaborate further than surface level. You FAIL to state timeframes for non-responders, weeks, months, years of training? Basically, you have little clue as to what you're talking about, and regurgitating stuff you've read from SOCCOR MOM BLOG POSTS.
You just keep repeating the most basic level crap, without stating any timeframes on zero gains, weeks, months, years? Then repeatedly asking ME to "google". Dude, you should be the one googling.
"just don't adapt"
WRONG! Again, over what timeframe? Weeks, months, years?
(DM me and let's swap instagrams, so you can show me your level of experience in weight lifting/bodybuilding, I can guarantee you have none)
YOU STATED
"some people's bodies just don't adapt."
Unless they are diagnosed by medical professionals, and are confirmed to have a genetic condition, you are just WRONG!
They DO ADAPT!
You weren't even aware that a discussion around the concept of non-responders exists, so are you sure it's me whose understanding is basic?
If you want to say, "Well I believe that the studies that suggest non-responders exist are flawed," and then point out how you think they are flawed, then that is fair. But you seem oblivious even to the debate.
Also, you're rude and combative for no reason. Do you think that acting like a prick makes someone want to continue to engage you? It doesn't.
I'm going to drop this reply and add you to my ignore list.
" I am saying there's a difference between a hard-gainer and a non-responder."
So you're not going to explain it in your own words then?
"Also, you're rude and combative for no reason."
You're the one arguing, clearly have no clue what you're talking about, but agreeing with what I say all the while.
"some people's bodies just don't adapt."
Over what time period? 1 week, 1 month or 1 year worth of weight training at an optimum level?
"I'm going to drop this reply and add you to my ignore list."
Because you realised you're out of your depth, and have been caught out? Goodbye troll.
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