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How Would You Even Know if She's a Great Actress?


People seem to take it as a given that she's this amazing actress that Hollywood just doesn't know what to do with, and won't cast in anything because she's black, BUT...

"12 Years a Slave" was the very first movie she was EVER in and that was the ripe age of 31 (not old, but definitely older than most Hollywood actresses get started). And I know people were blown away by her in that part, but, come on, admit that the role really was kind-of one note, and wasn't a very complicated character. All she really had to do was look miserable.

Then her part in "Non-Stop" was nothing. She made a lot of the exact same faces she did in "Slave" (open mouth, wide eyes, somewhat blank stare). Then in Jungle Book and Star Wars 7 you don't even get to see her on-screen.

So what, exactly, are you basing this idea that she's a great actress on? One performance where she was playing a somewhat limited character?

Maybe casting agents have auditioned her for stuff and she just didn't have it, at least not like people thought.

Lord knows it's not easy being a black actress in Hollywood, but there are so many actresses that we know are great who can barely get quality roles--Rosario Dawson, Zoe Kravitz, Megalyn Echikunwoke, Joy Bryant, Naomie Harris, Audra McDonald, and 100 others--and several of them finally getting good stuff on television like Viola and Taraji.

Why do people think there is a conspiracy not to cast a 33 year old "ingenue" who has (so far) only played one type of character? I mean they seem legitimately mad that she's not getting great parts whereas I might say she's actually had a very easy time in Hollywood, becoming an overnight star at an age when most actresses are having to quit the business.

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She has a movie coming out this year "Queen of Katwe" where she isn't animated.

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I thought she was overrated in 12 Years...I actually thought the Oscar should have gone to Julia Roberts. I think that's the year, or maybe it was after, that I stopped watching the Oscars because they are completely arbitrary.

This means they don't agree with me. Ha ha.

(Plus, Chiwetel Ejiofor should have won for Best Actor - not Matthew McConaughey.

While I'm at it, I might as well say that

Michael Fassbender should have won Best Supporting Actor.
Amy Adams or Judi Dench should have won Best Actress - lean toward Adams.
Steve McQueen or Martin Scorcese should have won Best Director - lean toward McQueen.

The Best Picture and Screenplay Oscars were on the money.)

POSSIBLE SPOILER: The harrowing scene of violence that won her the Oscar - I think any decent actor could have won based on the context of that scene. The plot set up an Oscar-Winning scene, actually. Does this make sense? A couple times when she rolled her eyes in the back of her head - it was a bit over-the-top for me.


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She's amazing in Eclipsed,it's her play on Broadway. Not everything has to be a movie to be good you guys.

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Lupita did not win the oscar based on the scene you mentioned. It was mainly the scene before it that got most people's attention with regards to her perfomance. Also her scene with Solomon.

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"12 Years a Slave" was the very first movie she was EVER in and that was the ripe age of 31 (not old, but definitely older than most Hollywood actresses get started). And I know people were blown away by her in that part, but, come on, admit that the role really was kind-of one note, and wasn't a very complicated character. All she really had to do was look miserable.

The funny thing is, you could say almost this exact same thing about Margot Robbie. Her first major role was in Wolf of Wall Street where she was just playing your basic sex kitten, then all of a sudden she's in everything.

No one had even heard of Alicia Vikander a year ago with Ex Machina, but by that film's release she had already been cast in U.N.C.L.E. and Danish Girl and now she's in everything.

If Lupita is a good actress or not is beside the point. She won an Oscar in her first major role and since then she hasn't been cast in the lead or at least the main female lead in any major Hollywood films since then, only small supporting roles and voice work. And as for the age thing, she can easily pass for a woman in her mid to late 20s so I doubt that's it.

It sort of reminds me of when 28 Days Later came out in 2002 and I thought Naomie Harris was such a beautiful actress who turned in a standout performance, I thought her career would take off and Hollywood ignored her. Same with Gabrielle Union, Gugu Mbatha-Raw, Taraji P. Henson, Gina Torre, and well you get the point.

So, yeah, it really doesn't matter if Lupita were the greatest actress on the planet, she didn't get a post-Oscar bump or a barrage of leading roles for a pretty obvious reason. At least she's being recognized on Broadway.

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The racial aspect is obviously still a big thing. I don't think Lupita or anyone wants handouts and nor should she be given them but she should be given the chance to succeed or fail like any other pretty young actress whom has won an Oscar.

Comparing her to Jennifer Lawrence is still stupid and always will be stupid though because Lawrence had an huge franchise and won an Oscar at 22, she is a rarity. But comparing Lupita to actresses like Vikander and Jessica Chastain is fair I think. There is no reason that a beautiful, talented and fit young actress with an Oscar shouldn't have landed a role in a high profile big budget film. And no I'm not talking about a voice over.

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She's a helluva voice actress that's for sure, her voice is fiery.

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