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What lies or contradictions did you notice in Oprah interview?


1. Megan didn't marry Harry three days before ceremony. They only exchanged private vows.

2. Megan made it appear Archie was denied the title of prince because of racism, but none of the queen's great-grandchildren have that title except Prince George who will be king and his two siblings.

3. Meghan said titles weren't important and then complained about Archie not having one.

4. They both said they only thought about making money AFTER their security was removed. But, they had a website and had a plan to leave the UK which was discussed for over a year with the Firm of making money for 6 months off their royal titles and then carrying out royal duties in England for 6 months.

5. 37 y.o. Harry complained about no payment for security from the family, but the money comes from taxpayers for royals who work for them. And why does 37 y.o. Harry still need financial support after he inherited millions?

6. Meghan said she couldn't get help for suicidal thoughts, but Harry has been seeing a psychiatrist for years.

7. Harry and Meghan repeatedly talked about support from the queen and their wonderful relationship, but then attacked her since she's the one who is partially in charge of titles and security.

8. Harry said no racism exists among the British people. Only with the press, one person in his family, and the institution.

9. Meghan said she received no education about how to act as a royal. Not true. They're given rules to follow and conduct themselves. One is "never complain, never explain".

10. They want their privacy, but do social media, contribute to a book about themselves and do an interview in order to fix their image to make money.

11. Harry says he wants to mend his relationship with Charles and William, but joins Meghan in trashing them and William's wife on TV.

12. Meghan said that half-sister Samantha changed her name back to Markle after Meghan started seeing Harry. Her sister denied this showing a 1997 petition to the media.

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🙄YIKES

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You watch this nonsense? You really like the media huh? I just got some snippets of it but it's a good distraction from what really matters. I think the continuous take away is she is still Duchess and she is still 8th from the throne and outranks every jealous bitch here.

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Absolutely! I also read a book about them written by acquaintance journalists in which they obviously cooperated.

More obvious lies in the book to fix their image in order to make money:

Harry begging Disney CEO for a job for Meghan was only a "joke". But, Meghan was hired, so not a joke after all!

Her mother wasn't alone at the wedding because she brought a "friend" - who must have been invisible. Why didn't Meghan invite her mom's sister? Or her minister uncle? IMHO, telling Harry she had no family to play "all alone" victim. Harry publically repeated she had no family except his.

I'm saddened because I wanted only happiness for Diana's children. Meghan manipulated Harry and is now doing the same with the public by playing victim. They spent 2 hours dogging his family further alienating him.

BTW, Meghan isn't in line to the throne since she's royal by marriage.

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"I'm saddened because I wanted only happiness for Diana's children."

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Me also.

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What is the title of the book? I might want to take a look.

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The book I read is called "Finding Freedom" by Carolyn Durand & Omid Scobie

I've begun reading another book which appears to give a much more honest and detailed account of them. The author, Lady Colin Campbell, is a socialite with royal friends who wrote a book about Princess Diana detailing her bulimia and affair with James Hewitt long before it was public. This one is "Meghan and Harry: The Real Story". I'll probably post a review and some tidbits when I finish it.

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Thanks!

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I finished "Meghan and Harry: The Real Story" and left a review of both books. This book was excellent and I recommend it over "Finding Freedom".
https://moviechat.org/nm1620783/Meghan-Markle/606a607d0138e7306e504417/Harry-and-Meghan-Book-Reviews

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Yeah, she seems like a bit of a nightmare. I feel bad for the Royals, who actually do a lot of good charity work both at home and abroad, as well as give the English people something to be proud of. Who the hell is Markle to interfere with that? Poor Harry. He seems absolutely whipped.

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Yeah, she's Diana all over again. I love her just for that!

(Edit: And Diana would support them if they choose to tell the Royals to piss off.)

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Markle has nowhere near the same level of poise that Diana had. That said, I agree with you that she would have stood by her son, regardless of his foolish decisions.

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His decisions aren't foolish - if God is for you then who can be against you? So what if they don't want to be part of the Royal drama. Being part of the celebrity drama has got to be hard enough. Let God be their only judge. Good on them.

Meghan would be like Grace Kelly, but definitely like Diana in level of humanitarian poise...

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I suppose we’ll just have to agree to disagree, Tabby.

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Lmao. Meghan doesn’t want to be part of the royal drama? She effing creates the royal drama.

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Tabby S, you join a Club, get all the benefits, and then moan because you don't like their rules?

She's a mutt.


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Nah, Harry pretty much said that the British paparazzi ruined it for them. You think?

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What, ruined their grubby little back-stab? Poor diddums.

And she's NOT Diana 'all over again'. She only wishes she was, the mutt.

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Well, Diana seemed like a commoner. Nothing wrong with being relatable to the human race.

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Princess Diana never seemed like a commoner to me! Every inch a Princess.

Markle is as common as muck!

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Congratulations on deciphering her lies. Unfortunately, in the eyes of the media, because she is representing herself as black that makes you a racist and all your points are nothing more than hate speech.

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Unfortunately, you're right. BTW, there were racism, double-standard treatment and hostility against her which makes the lying unnecessary. But, their lies paint both as victims in a way to help their finances and image. His family must be shell-shocked after welcoming her to the family.

The British media is more savvy about royal protocol so they're printing the contradictions.

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Usually, you're the epitome of rationality.

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Don't make it about me. What's YOUR opinion about the interview? Did you believe everything they said?

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What, because he usually agrees with you Tabby?? lololol

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She invoked all the prejudice, didn't she? Racism, mental health, sexism, etc. She knows what crowd she's playing for. Next we'll hear Archie is non-binary, like his father.

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She's also all alone because "she lost her father".

Her acting is better than I thought.

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They were offered the title that the rules allow, which would be 'child of a duke'. Harry was 'Duke of Sussex', so I believe the title would be Archie, Marquess of Sussex.

They chose 'master archie' instead.

Only when Charles becomes King would he become 'Prince Archie' according to the rules.

I'm sure they know all of this and by not stating this they are creating a false narrative, or letting the audience fill in the gaps with their own imaginations (oh no that's racism!)

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No, there is no title Marquess of Sussex. Archie would be permitted to use one of his father’s lesser titles, which is Earl of Dumbarton.

https://www.royal.uk/prince-harry-and-ms-meghan-markle-announcement-titles

And someone keeps trying to insist that Meghan is 6th in line to the throne. She is zero in line to the throne. She has no claim to it whatsoever. Her husband is/was 6th inline, but since he has just effectively burned down his family tree, I guess he isn’t anymore, by his own choice.

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He would be given son of a duke title, which is a Marquess.

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No, there is no “son of a duke title.” That simply does not exist. The eldest son of a duke may use one of his father’s lesser titles.
https://www.debretts.com/expertise/essential-guide-to-the-peerage/courtesy-titles/


In this case, that is Earl of Dumbarton.

“ As the first born son of a duke, Archie could have become Earl of Dumbarton or have been Lord Archie Mountbatten-Windsor, but instead he will simply be Master Archie Mountbatten-Windsor.”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/48204168

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Totally right. A person can have multiple titles, but they are usually referred to by the highest ranked one. Like Prince Charles is also the Duke of Cornwall, but since “Prince of Wales” is higher than that, he is referred to as “Prince of Wales.” Camilla is referred to as Duchess of Cornwall because they didn’t want to give her Diana’s old Title.

Princess Margaret’s husband, Antony Armstrong-Jones was given the titles Earl of Snowden and Viscount Linley. He was referred by the Earl title and his son David had the “courtesy title” of Viscount Linley.

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Why would someone who hated being a working princess get angry because her kids weren't given titles? She hated the life that came with the title!

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She wants to be a princess on HER terms. Have lots of money, no boring royal duties and rules, celebrity lifestyle. A title is a huge status symbol.

I'm convinced she'll eventually dump "impoverished" Harry for a multibillionaire husband like pal Serena has.

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"She wants to be a princess on HER terms."

That's not how royalty works, is it! And her kids wouldn't get to be royals on their own terms or her terms, if she hadn't burned so many bridges behind her that there's no hope of honors, they'd have to either totally get with the program if they wanted any of the perks.

As for a bazillionaire, I don't think she'll be able to trade up from Harry, she's already pushing forty, has 1.5 kids, and is engaged in a vicious feud with the people who boosted her from the Hollywood D-list to fame and fortune. Bazillionaires want wives who can be trusted to keep secrets and play the game, even after the inevitable divorce.

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That's not how royalty is supposed to work, but...

"What Meghan wants, Meghan gets!" - Prince Harry

So far, she's getting most of what she wants with Harry's help.

Jackie Kennedy married Aristotle and Brooke married John Jacob Astor VI when they were older. Of course, the men knew the women only married for money. Billionaire husbands marry for status and companionship, too. Jerry Hall married Rupert Murdoch in 2016 and she was in her 60s.

Big lifestyle upgrade with a billionaire! Meghan's MO is to dump men when a "better one" comes along.

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I don't think Harry's inheritance from Diana would be enough to cover a lifetime of the kind of security they would need, so I'm not surprised they made deals with Netflix etc. One thing that confused me, however, was that she mentioned before they married that there had been comments from the RF about whether she would be able to keep acting after they married to fund their security because there were concerns in the RF that there wouldn't be enough money for all their security. So then why was it such a big deal to the Royal Family that she wanted to work after they married? If there had been these discussions before marriage about how to pay for security, then how did it come as a surprise to her that paying for security was going to be an issue? Did Harry also not pick up on that problem, with all his experience in the Royal Family? There were a lot of things in the interview that I thought did not make sense.

Also, the issue with Archie not being given security, didn't Eugenie and Beatrice have similar issues? There has been discussion for years about Charles wanting to slim down the monarchy. I always thought that would include Harry and Harry's kids but Harry is in the same position as Andrew, so it does not seem realistic that Harry's kids would get security forever, you know?

I'm not doubting security was a problem but it all seems a bit vague. Lots of extended Royal Family seem to live in the palace. How do they fund their own security?

I did not like that the incident with Kate and the flower girls was the one thing she chose to elaborate on. Kate is not exactly the powerful person in the room here, as, although wealthy, she's a commoner who most likely ALSO does not have official custody of her own kids. Kate is only protected as long as she follows protocol and pleases the Queen. It came off as very petty to be so specific about Kate and then so vague about who made the racist remarks. It was as if Kate is the one person whose status within the Royal Family is low enough that she can be criticized by name.

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Security isn't the reason they're making deals. They left the UK in order to become rich. The only ones who get 24/7 security are those in direct succession and spouses: Queen, Prince Phillip, Charles, Camilla, William, Kate & three kids.

Security provided at official residences and during royal duties. Foreign governments provide some security when they're traveling on official business, too. It was understood she wouldn't work as an actress which is why she ditched her blog. She lived with Harry for a year before marrying so she should've known the royal lifestyle.

Meghan brought up Kate to fix her own image since she knows people were upset. The problem is that Meghan can lie about Kate, etc., because she knows the royals will remain silent. Meghan was a bully who had her own staff quit, fought over a tiara with Eugenie, so I believe the original story that Meghan made Kate cry since that appears to be her MO.

The poor Queen is likely saying "Here we go, again" with flashbacks of Diana stirring the pot.

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Great post!

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Thanks.

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