If we held a light to crimes of the US (aka the sinister CIA= Truman's words) as we are about Soviet Union/Russia, I think it would be comparable.
Only imbeciles believe their own country's ''media''
1943–44, the Soviet government conducted a series of deportations. Some 1.9 million people were deported to Siberia and the Central Asian republics. The modern Kremlin fucks never apologized or admited to any of Soviet war crimes and killings of innocent people.
Now they start a war with no probable cause and killing Ukrainian people.
OP just go fuck yourself and everyone who agrees with him
In 1943 and 44, the Soviets were the good guys in WW2. They were part of the Allies who fought the Axis. The Soviets became evil after the war ended
shareThe soviets were always evil. I just hope and pray, that this war would be the end of this maggot putin.
shareKeep in mind that Russia right now is fighting against LITERAL Nazis, not the fakestream media kind:
https://electronicintifada.net/content/israel-arming-neo-nazis-ukraine/24876
https://thesoufancenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Report-by-The-Soufan-Center-White-Supremacy-Extremism-The-Transnational-Rise-of-The-Violent-White-Supremacist-Movement.pdf
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ukraines-anti-russia-azov-battalion-minutemen-or-neo-nazi-terrorists
https://geohistory.today/azov-movement-ukraine/
So, technically, if they lose, actual, real-life, self-identified Nazis win.
Ironic.
I just noticed you posted more misinformation. That's fake news about the nazis in Ukraine. Russian propagandists are trying to link the Azov battalion to Nazis based on their wolfsangel logo. That would be like linking every Hindu temple with swastikas to the Nazis. The Nazis misappropriated a lot of ancient symbols since they were too stupid to come up with their own ideas. I don't think the Russians can occupy Ukraine as long as grannies are picking up guns.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10515451/Babushka-battalion-training-Ukraine-organised-neo-NAZIS.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfsangel * Wolfsangel is not a Nazi symbol *
From the Wikipedia article:
The Wolfsangel was an initial symbol of the Nazi Party.
My overall purpose is to show that the wolfsangel symbol has been used throughout history and it is not necessarily a Nazi symbol. Show me an official website of the Azov battalion that espouses Nazi beliefs. I don't believe it's out there and it's probably in Ukrainian. I don't think it's accurate to label the Azov group a neo-nazi group BUT there could be a few jerks in their ranks who post BS on social media. War creates strange bedfellow. The US actually allied with commies in order to defeat Nazis... WTF?
Ukraine has a problem with too many Russians who still live in the east of Ukraine. These Russians are not loyal to the Ukrainian government/society and want to break away instead of going back to Russia. Thirty percent of Ukrainians identify as Russian and they are not loyal to the Ukrainian country/society. Other former Soviet republics have a similar problem with Russians who still live there and do not want return to Russia.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary-idUSKBN1GV2TY
The Wikipedia article
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion
is not enough?
Their website
https://azov.org.ua/
is of course in Ukrainian.
they are not loyal to the Ukrainian country/society
I don't consider wikipedia to be a reliable source since it can be edited by users. I could go in and start editing various pages until another user edited my contributions to the page. The article below discuss edit wars between wikipedia users.
https://www.vox.com/2015/9/17/9345487/wikipedia-lamest-edit-wars
At least we can talk and criticize it unlike in China and some of Russia (not sure how censored they keep it). If you said this in China you'd get a re-education on that brain of yours.
shareCIA and the US government has done horrible things, no doubt. That doesn't make this right, though.
edit: also, what Rorikon said.
I have a interesting story for people who think that the CIA and the KGB operates on the same level.
During the hostage crisis of the Carter administration, Iranian revolutionaries were emboldened with the success of taking American hostages. Not willing to be a pawn of the U.S. government OR the Soviet Unions constant interference in the politics of their country, the newly emboldened Iranian revolutionaries decided to kidnap a few Soviets.
It didn't go so well. The KGB found out the names of some of the relatives of the Iranian kidnappers. They cut off several of their heads, placing....inside the severed heads ..penises in the mouths of the newly decapitated..they then, in the middle of the night, placed the macabre package on the doorstep of the kidnappers.
The Iranian revolutionaries released the kidnapped Soviets the next day.
No book of rules for the KGB.
But thats not a true story
shareSays who?
Well I don't know much about the Iranian hostage situation but my college professor is an expert in that area. He told me that the Iranians only kidnapped Americans from the embassy. No Soviet citizens were taken hostage
shareThis incident was separate.
Soviets were taken hostage and released in little more than a day.
Both Iran and the Soviets/Russia will deny the event ever occurred.
But it did happen.
One should never underestimate the ability of non-democratic governments without freedom of the press to bury events from the public view.
I didn’t dig too deep into it but it looks like it was reported in the LA Times on January 7, 1986. They source the Jerusalem Post. It involved the September 30, 1985 kidnapping of four Soviet diplomats in Lebanon by a radical pro-Iranian group called Shias’ Hezbollah (Party of God). Katkov was assassinated and dumped in an open lot in Beirut. Some of the story may be apocryphal but if you search Katkov’s name and Benny Morris (the diplomatic correspondent for the Jerusalem Post) there is a good body of coverage about it including the grisly information Redsfan recounts
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Do you support the migrants from Central and South America seeking asylum into the US due to the CIA/American incursions there for the last 200 years?
I've seen top posts like this coming from Trump supporters but they sure as Hell were quiet when he was warmongering on Venezuela, Cuba, and Iran while in office. How is that any different?
So you don't support the Russian activity then?
sharehttps://thebulletin.org/2022/02/echoes-of-hypocrisy-from-iraq-to-ukraine/
shareFinally, an article that talks sense.
There's no way anyone can sit around pointing fingers at Putin after America destabilized and completely destroyed Iraq. That is an indefensible sin that no American tyrant paid for in accountability. It was all done for "democracy".
Whatever Putin's pretense is doesn't change the fact that the intentions and outcome are identical to the U.S., foreign (bully) policies they've been enacting for decades.
Plus, the fact Ukraine has mostly been used as a vassal State for corrupt Demonrats (viz., Hunter Biden anyone?) should give anyone pause as to why the Demonrats are so intent on protecting Ukraine's interests when it literally has ZERO to do with Americans. Also, notice how the Demonrats completely ignore all of the Neo-Nazis fighting on behalf of Ukraine? I guess it's okay to be a Nazi if you're fighting to protect the corrupt policies of the globalist elites.