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To people from the UK - rape allegation!


How many years behind bars is he likely to get overseas ?

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Even if he were to be charged with an offence, which is far from certain, frankly, he's not likely to spend any time in prison. The conviction rates for sexual assault and rape are pitiful.

And the criteria behind sentencing are far too complex to give any sensible estimate of how long someone would spend in custody. And those complexities cannot be adumbrated here. Too many factors involved, too many variables.

But the maximum sentence for rape in the UK is life imprisonment. This only applies to Category 1 offences, which are the worst cases involving physical violence and where the perpetrator is assessed to be an ongoing threat to the public safety.

There's no statutory minimum, but sentencing guidelines begin at 4 years and increase depending on the level of perceived harm to the victim (Categories 3 through to 1).

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Thanks for the info!

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"Too many factors" like proving guilt get in the way.

And even then, you can convict and throw a man in jail without a shred of evidence and an alibi that they weren't even in the same county.

Google Jemma Beale. Multiple men jailed for years without evidence. Only caught because she kept going back to the well and trying it again, and again. 15 tries before the police started doing any real detective work, and she was caught out.

It seems like it's pretty easy to convict.

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You've added nothing.

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That it's pretty easy to get a conviction with prison time with zero evidence?

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NO...NOT AT ALL.

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Jemma Beale proves otherwise. Multiple men she'd never even met were in prison for years. No evidence.


Another case:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-Uhe5WIfEc

Almost faced prison time. No evidence. They never even met. They passed in a busy train station and nothing more, that was enough to go to court.

The police even tampered with CCTV to get a conviction.


All you have to do is google. There are many, many cases of zero evidence jail time. The lack of convictions is probably down to the avalanche of false accusations that are so see through that it doesn't even make it to court. If people can be jailed without ever meeting the accuser, without a shred of evidence, they must be some transparent whoppers for the police to turn it down.

If you can walk past somebody in a train station, then you're in court facing a jury over rape, and you only escape jail time because you luckily find CCTV that nothing happened and even then the police tamper with it to get the conviction. NO EVIDENCE. IN COURT. FACING JAIL.

I'd say it's pretty easy.

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Convictions are really low in England. If found guilty he'd probably get about 8 years - be out in 4 🙄

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