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Maybe one day transgenders will look like they want


Instead of either:
- guys in drag (due to their physical build)
- freak shows (due to excessive makeup/surgery that make them look unnatural)

I'm all for the theory of letting people fix either their head or body to make them match their true gender (some people truly ain't born clear cut male/female, what are they supposed to do?), and of others getting off their backs (like they themselves were Greek demigods).

But the reality is that most of these people (the ones I see depicted in the news and can tell on the street) do NOT look like their chosen gender, and thus inevitably end up drawing attention/mocking/ridicule from other people whom no matter how tolerant, invariably end up staring at them with the "is that a dude or a girl?" look.

Transgender people who actually look natural and can pass off for their chosen gender (because they'll never really be their chosen gender no matter how much surgery they have and hormones they take) are the exception:
- effeminate dudes whom clearly look like a girl, and thus do look more natural as a woman
- butch women whom clearly look like dudes and thus do look more natural as a guy

The vast majority however end up looking more or less like cross-dressers: no matter how much surgery, hormones and makeup they use, they are bound by their body's frame and type, and after a certain point more surgery/makeup/hormones will only make them look worse, not better.

Laverne is no exception: while she doesn't look freakish, she still clearly looks manly enough to have people guessing.

And with the mainstreaming/acceptance of cross-dressing, you really can't blame people whom upon encountering a transgender person aren't sure if it's a cross dresser or a transgender or what. It can get confusing.

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Yeah, if only trans people would be less confusing and adhere more to normative gender appearances so the rest of us can quit mocking them.

Get your ass in gear, trans people. Stop making us ridicule you.

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Well if you feel entitled to mock them, let's see a picture of you. And unless you're up there with say Brad Pitt or Hugh Jackman, get ready to experience some mocking yourself.

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How dare trans people be confusing?! Have they no decency! They practically bring the mocking upon themselves!

Stop making us treat you in this mean-spirited way, trans people! We're the victims here!

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Well if you feel entitled to mock them, let's see a picture of you. And unless you're up there with say Brad Pitt or Hugh Jackman, get ready to experience some mocking yourself.

is this a srs post?

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I never heard of this actor/actress until I was watching Hollywood Game Night this evening. I kept looking at her thinking she looked like a guy in drag. I actually had to come here and look it up to find out that she was indeed born a man. So obviously she's not fooling anybody.

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I actually had to come here and look it up to find out that she was indeed born a man. So obviously she's not fooling anybody.

Well in truth, she did mention on Hollywood Game Night that she is a black transgender woman.

One of the issues, that you don't really hear about much anymore, is some are issued a letter by their psychologist that states why they are dressed that way (that they are going through a sex-change) in case they are stopped. About 20 years ago I knew a transsexual that carried such a letter. She was 6'3" and built like a linebacker. However, she was convinced she was totally passable.

I've heard that even with the letter the police, and others, use their own discretion as to what happens to them when they are stopped. Sometimes they still get taken in and can be entered into a sex registry for using the women's restroom the same as any male would be that they caught in the ladies restroom. I wonder how many of them do get clocked and checked when out and about. I also believe this is why so few actually transition. Most stay in the male role.

"He had Four-on-the-Floor and I was ready to Clutch"ξ‹πŸŒˆ

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I think Laverne Cox looks like a man.

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