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A Dangerous Twit and an Insult to Those of Us with Mental Illnesses

posted 2 years ago by HarveyManFredSin (4877)
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https://uk.yahoo.com/news/prince-harry-gabor-mate-reactions-conversation-spare-book-182916201.html

Amazingly, I find myself agreeing with Kirstie Allsopp of all people, someone who has not hirtheto been known for understanding issues that affect the poor, working-class and non-white.

Here are her words regarding Harry's attitude towards drug-taking: "Someone needs to tell Prince Harry that County Lines doesn’t mean doing coke in the Home Counties. It means that stuff you took to ease your trauma, was soaked in the blood of those whose own trauma & lives are as far from your privileged bubble as it is possible to get."

👏🏼👏🏼 Well said Kirstie. Many *actual* Black people have died or at least risked their lives to give this spoiled entitled Black-wannabe faux-race warrior white prince his cocaine fix. Fuck him and his privilege, and his *very* light-skinned biracial wife who appears to be enabling his bullshit.

And trust that militant feminist dickhead, 'Doctor' Charlotte Proudman to take the wrong side of the argument, as always. If she's such a 'feminist', why is she so willing to defend a spoiled little misogynist white boy who demonised his step-mother and was very ungracious in spilling the beans about his sexual relationships with various women in his 'memoir'? Or does she only reserve her venom for working-class and ethnic men like Johnny Depp, rather than spoiled rich white *princes*? 😠 I guess Anglo-American whitebread Amber Heard kind of looks like an Aryan princess, so it makes sense that blonde, blue-eyed 'Doctor' Proudman would simp for her too. I guess she only has a problem with men when they're self-made and/or have ethnic ancestry, as Johnny Depp does (yes, guess what? Johnny Depp has relatively recent Black ancestry, which makes him more Black than wannabe Harry).

[–] Kowalski (79128) 2 years ago

YOU'RE FUCKING WEIRD.😐

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

How so?

[–] Kowalski (79128) 2 years ago

YOU KNOW...MR.COY.

[–] ColumboKate (5787) 2 years ago

Stories keep popping up on my news feed about how he suffered after Diana died and it gave him PTSD and how he went off the rails and all the rest .... same here Harry, but I'm aware enough to understand that thousands of young people go through the same thing but just get on with their lives, knowing that nobody gives a shit about how hard it was.

I'm sure he had amazing psychological care after his mother died ... the rest of us had to go on a NHS waiting list and wait 6 months for 12 sessions which did nothing to help at all.

She is just fame hungry and he thinks the sun shines out of her arse, and so we all must suffer their nonsense 😒

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

I have the upmost sympathy for anyone who lost their parents at an early age, and I don't judge his own personal approach to coping with that bereavement.

But glamourising drugs/borderline advocating that illegal drugs are 'helpful' for people dealing with trauma is extremely irresponsible for anyone in Harry's position. And some of his other antics, whilst forgiveable, should not be condoned or encouraged.

[–] Otter (24464) 2 years ago

Oh, Harry's mentally ill all right, just not in the way he thinks he is! HE thinks he has PTSD that's his family's fault, as well as ADD, but that's far from all his issues.

I read his horrible book, and he made it very obvious that he has an unfortunate IQ and a breathtaking Oedipus complex for starters. But there's so much more, even when he's trying to look good in his own book, he comes across as VERY strange. He blames other people for everything he's ever done wrong, he's weirdly fond of following orders, like he has no idea what to do with himself on his own. And he's oddly indifferent to other people, even more than you'd expect from someone as spoiled as he is, and he talks about killing people in Afghanistan like he'd score extra points on a video game, so IMHO he definitely wouldn't care how many people died to deliver the illegal drugs he likes so much. And he doesn't give a rat's ass about the illegality, he doesn't think laws apply to him.

I mean I like to play "armchair psychologist" more than anyone, but I don't have a good guess what's wrong with him (sociopath?). I just think t hat there's something very serious missing from his psyche.

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

Thank you for reading the book so the rest of us don't have to. 🙂

And fwiw, I 100% trust your judgement and analysis here, although I also appreciate that you admit that you're not an expert (none of us are) and can thus only speculate, rather than do the irresponsible thing and act like an unimpeachable authority on someone we've never met (which is what we see from many psychiatrists and psychologists, who really should know better).

The IQ stuff, and his callous approach to his Afghanistan kill count, are things I'd already surmised for myself from the various excerpts released, but I appreciate the confirmation from someone who's actually read his book.

[–] Otter (24464) 2 years ago

Yes, I read it so the rest of you don't have to!

It really was painful, but I actually do recommend to anyone who's either a snarky bitch or who takes a serious interest in psychology! Normal human beings should avoid it, though, because it's so horribly revealing. He thinks he's being charming and honest, and has no idea he's actually coming across as massively spoiled, entitled, petty, immature, and disturbed. He really must have passed off his ghostwriter and publishers, it's so unintentionally disturbing.

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

I wonder if he even read it/checked the passages before essentially signing off on their publication.

[–] Otter (24464) 2 years ago

Who knows, but the really frightening thought is that Meg undoubtedly did!

She's the brains of the outfit, I mean she HAS to be.

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

This is the thing.

I personally hate to blame a Black woman for anything, if it can be avoided, but all those people arguing that it's racist to blame Meghan for the actions of a thirtysomething man seem to have missed the point. He's clearly not bright enough to orchestrate this campaign against his family on his own. I mean, it's possible, but far more likely that someone *with* a brain is supporting him.

[–] Otter (24464) 2 years ago

I tend to think that like Yoko Ono, she gets blamed for a lot of stuff that are her man's fault, because people think that they "know" said man and want to believe that he wouldn't do [whatever]. He hates the press obsessively, for instance, and spent about 35 years asking his daddy why he hadn't demanded a retraction or filed a lawsuit over every tiny inaccuracy in the press*, while Meg undoubtedly grew up hearing "There's no such thing as bad publicity". Even if some of the suits launched against the press were in Meg's name, Harry had to be for them.

I hope Meg is happy with her prince, but the fact is, she's actually supporting the two of them. Harry doesn't want to do squat except make the occasional speech "for charitable causes", which nobody cares about, while she's out making the deals with Netflix and Spotify and Reality Tv and such. I hope she thinks he's worth the trouble.

* In the book, Harry demanded that his father sue or demand retractions when stories about Harry's drug use were published, apparently because details such as location were wrong. In the book Harry admits he actually *had* been using drugs, the drugs named in the article.

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

He's just done a TV interview with a psychiatrist where he happily discusses the 'therapeutic value' of taking drugs. He seems proud of his drug habits.

It's precisely this that motivated me to make this thread. I mean, it's up to Harry if he wants to do drugs. It's his own life, and I no more judge drug addicts than I do alcoholics.

However, it's ALSO true to say that the illegal drug trade, particularly cocaine, has many actual victims besides the occasionally privileged people who actually take them, and many of these victims tend to be poor and often POC.

It's also deeply irresponsible for Harry, as someone who claims to be a 'menal health champion' to suggest that medicating oneself via illegal drugs is a reasonable option. It's not his personal life choices or even his honesty I object to. It's his life after all. It's the flippant lack of concern and lack of contextualisation to his words, which others may regard as sage advice. He must know that for many people, especially those without his money, drugs are not a wise option, and not everyone has Harry's connections and resources if they were to become addicted.

[–] Otter (24464) 2 years ago

I'm more concerned with Harry assuming he's above the law, do NOT get me started on the rich being functionally above the law in the US! The spoiled worthless SOB is probably perfectly safe in discussing his illegal hobbies in public, the Montecito authorities aren't going to want to risk their careers on a high-profile case that doesn't involve murder. Feh.

But that won't be true of anyone fool enough to take his advice on self-treatment.

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

My attitude isn't that far from yours, but I'm more concerned about why these laws exist to begin with. If he was breaking a law that had no consequences for anyone else, I honestly wouldn't care, even if it is, as you say, wrong that rich white people get away with stuff that other demographics don't. But the fact is, his actions *do* have practical consequences. The illegal drug trade is hurting people beyond whatever harm he wants to do to his own body.

[–] Lily Magnum (267) 2 years ago

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[–] Popcorngal (4937) 2 years ago

one of Meghan's nephews and his mom have or had a marijuana business, or so I read in the tabs when they were engaged years ago. In addition,her brother is an recovering alcoholic. I heard rumors both her dad and brother smoked pot when she wss growing up.

Considering her unconventional upbringing, maybe she is cool with his drug use, or got fed up if she tried to intervene, and wants to keep peace in the marriage. It is also possible, he is smoking pot to deal with losing his beloved grandparents. Very sad all around. Then again, maybe Meghan likes reefer as well.

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

He's basically advocating drugs as a means of self-medication.

That's his own business, but he really needs to shut the fuck up because he's setting a bad example for all the idiots who look up to him.

[–] Popcorngal (4937) 2 years ago

Then again, his fans should use their own logic and sense of well being and not play the game of "follow the leader". Now I am curious about the other royal's drug usage, you better believe Harry is not the only one.

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

Once again, what they do in private is their own business (although as Kirstie Allsop, of all people, said to her credit, the drug trade has far more victims than the people who actually purchase and take them, and those victims are often poor and/or POC).

My issue isn't so much with the drug usage per se, but the way he's bragging about it, and thus *legitimising* it to his legion of fans. Because, let's be honest, a lot of his most staunch defenders aren't very bright and don't seem able to think for themselves (today I saw some people castigating his father and brother for not attending Lillibet's christening in California, despite the expense and difficulty it would cause to fly over to California, and despite Harry not attending his nephew and niece's own christenings, and the fact that Harry has said a lot of nasty and hurtful things about his family which are hard to forgive, not to mention the nasty 'welcome' they'll receive if they were to set their feet in the US right now). I mean, many of the RF's staunchest defenders aren't very bright either (partisan people who can only see one POV are not, by their very nature, the brightest), but because they tend to be older, they're less likely to be so impressionable as the various Zillennials who worship the ground Harry and Meghan walk on. These young people, many of whom have mental health problems, will watch Harry's interview and think "Yes, illegal drugs are a good way of self-medicating through one's health problems."