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There is absolutely nothing immoral, illegal, "creepy", or "very creepy" about adult men mentioning a girl (who is, by the way, now an adult). Raping, seducing, taking nude photos of--yes. Lusting after--perhaps. But mentioning? No.
shareYup. I'm sick of everything being "creepy" these days. Ugh.
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What a disingenuous thing to say. You should be ashamed of yourself.
shareGreta's taking on a very political issue here. Were you expecting people to listen to her speeches with numb expressions?
shareI still don't understand how science always becomes a political issue. We humans come from the earth and if we destroy our ecosystems how do we expect to survive? Only people who make money from destroying the earth, have made it political. Either accept the fact that destroying the earth for financial gain is worth eventually destroying the human race or do things to stop it from happening. But, please don't try and convince me that scientists have somehow become mouthpieces for politicians. For some reason conservative voters have continued to follow the beliefs of people whose main objective in life is to attain as much money and power as possible, and to convince a bunch of fools that what they are doing is somehow benefiting them. It's a lot of hooey.
shareI think you answered your own question here.
As a community leader (mayor, state or country etc), you have to make very real decisions that have a very great effect on the people you lead. It means making hard choices and living with that decision. Almost all economic activity has a negative effect on the enviorment. One can be lauded for choosing the enviornment over business, but if it means having a decent paying job and a minimun wage job, most voters will favor business.
There has to be a middle ground.
Middle ground? I agree.
shareHaha, that old trick! It's getting a little old, don't you think?
Always the same. Whenever women or girls get criticised for their hostile misanthropic views, somebody somewhere always tries to deflect it by ominously hinting at the ulterior, and possibly criminal, motives of her critics. If a young girl puts herself in the way of criticism, she thinks she can always stop it by claiming that the critics are somehow not really interested in her views, but are in fact interested in her.
God, it's pathetic.
Even if it isn't that, it is still really odd for so many "men"(which it always is) to be so terrified of something a young girl said. To bring her up over and over and over again is just madness. I just doesn't make sense for a grown adult to be so upset about a child's opinion. It makes no sense to me, so the creep factor was the only logical explanation in my mind.
shareYet you started the thread and won't stop posting. I guess that is beyond fixation; something called obsession.
shareNo, I just respond to people who respond to me. It is funny how this post has gotten me more replies than any other one I have.
shareThat's what all stalkers say.
shareThis is actually one of the only threads where I have posted about her. I have not read many of the other posts, but I assume there are others who post about her much more than I do. I just find it odd that people still care so much about what this person says or does. This girl has no power and really isn't going to bring down these big corporations who are destroying our ecosystems. The only entity that is more powerful than the destroyers is the earth and when it has had enough, it will destroy the human race all on its own(that is if the human race doesn't destroy itself first) and then will regenerate and flourish as it did before we appeared.
shareWhy would you be interested in a child's views? That is the perplexing part.
shareIt's simple, Modica. This "child" has set herself up as a faux adult with all the rights of an adult to judge other adults. And in that adopted role, she has deceitfully used her actual status as a Child to attack, belittle, and condemn the world of real adults. It's duplicity of the worst kind.
One wonders why her parents allowed it to happen. Obviously they're irresponsible and foolish, or perhaps they're enjoying the notoriety that their daughter is bringing them. Either way, they're culpable, and in years to come this thing that they perpetrated will come back to bite them. You've said elsewhere that her parents should be defending her against the (inevitable) attacks of the public. I say they should have stepped up before it got that far.
In a rational society, her parents would have been called out and condemned, long before this, and their child taken out of this situation.
I don't talk about her that often but occasionally she'll do or say something so ridiculous that it makes you want to comment on it. Example... "how dare you". Lol... who says this?
I also find it a little strange that she is like what 18 now but looks 12. Does she ever eat?
I do find the "how dare you" quote funny. I love it when Howard Stern plays it over and over. It's so dramatic.
shareThe angrier she gets the funnier it is. I just want to pinch her chubby little cheeks and say goochy goochy goo !
LOL! Yes! Me, too. But I doubt it would change her expression much. I imagine she'd be like the infant who just refuses to be jollied out of a tantrum, folds her chubby little arms, and purses her lips, refusing the offered sweet. You ignore kids like that after a while. You just say, "Oh alright, just sulk then!"
shareThere's no way of knowing how she would react to it in advance. You'd just have to do it and see !
Oooh, I don't know, Quasi! Those kinds of kids can be dangerous when you try to tease them out of sulk! :)
shareSomehow I just can't picture a dangerous Greta Thunberg, her appearance is too comical.
I had the same problem with Maisie Williams as Arya Stark in Game of Thrones. She was supposed to be this super ninja assassin but she just looked comical to me.
I never watched an episode of that show after I'd seen one. I had to look up Maisie Williams. I see what you mean. She looks like the "funny" girl at the office, the one who's not all that attractive, but has a great personality.
Also, a girl with the name, "Maisie" is always going to have to battle to be taken seriously.
I'm still scratching my head on how they get Maisie out of Margaret which is her actual first name.
She's an adult now; she's open game.
shareYour claim is actually whats creepy.Without taking a side on the climate change issue,it obviously has got nothing to do with her being a child or a girl,its about people disagreeing with her opinions and her having a big platform to voice them.
shareBut why do you care? She has no power.
shareI personally dont.But she does have power,publicity is power.
shareShe's a symbol and a propagator of a movement. Acting like people should feel bad about discussing her is either misguided or an attempt at shaming people who don't agree with her. So which is it?
shareThe problem is that many people commenting aren't talking about the issues, but are discussing her looks, intelligence and personality. That is what is concerning.
shareThats simply an extension of criticism.Lots of people do that.Its shitty but its still got nothing to do with her age or gender.Im sure you ignore such ad hominem attacks when theyre aimed at a person you disagree with.
shareIt doesn't have anything to do with her age or gender, but the fact that it occurs and is directed toward a child is a problem in my view. I guess we just see it differently. If this was happening to my daughter, I would be pissed like there is no tomorrow. Also, I am sure lots of these guys have daughters and would feel the same way if things that they say were directed toward their child.
shareModica, first you say it has nothing to do with gender, but then you point out that men with daughters would be upset if it happened to theirs. I wonder, would you be as concerned if someone's son was subjected to similar criticism?
It seems to me you are displaying a good old-fashioned "Father the Champion" role here. Perhaps that's because you have daughters? Personally, I think that's admirable. In this day and age, when some people are actually celebrating the loss of fundamental decent human sentiments, your stand is commendable.
But let's not allow our values to be used to validate or excuse others' mistakes. This girl has put herself forward to espouse her judgemental views, having utter disregard for courtesy, civility, and the sensibilities of others. Complete and utter disregard. If she was a boy, I'm sure you and all her other apologists would be silent about the personal criticism he received. You would say, "He should man up and take it. He can't expect a friendly response when he attacks people like that".
Much as I loathe the term, "Sexism", your concern for the girl seems to me to be an example of it.
"That's simply an extension of criticism"
Exactly, CMX. It's a natural tendency, as old as the hills, when criticising anyone who has virtually invited criticism by being aggressive and belligerent, to throw in a few barbs about that person's physical features. There's nothing new about it, and people who enter the arena should be prepared for it.
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