Vaccine ?


He just had his booster shot!

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Was it a heart thing?

I've got two boosters, but I am in a high risk group.

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I don't know his medical history but he had a booster before starting his international tour.

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His heart was apparently twice the normal size, so he had something going on beforehand. Now whether the vaccine pushed it over the edge is still unknown. They will do an autopsy to get a better idea.

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Vaccine

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Yep, I’m betting on vaccine….any mention in the autopsy of “Cardiac” will give it away.

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I'd be willing to take that bet. Say $1000 CashApp or Venmo that it had nothing to do with the vaccine? Gentlemen's agreement, everyone here as a witness. What do you say?

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That's like stealing. Plus, antivaxxers always fall back to the "the autopsy is lying" when the science says they're wrong.

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Yep, exactly that!

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nutjob

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Well, I'm convinced. No one should die of anything after receiving a booster.

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Well, to the sceptics my neighbour down the street died from myocardial infarction two days before x-mas after his second jab!! He was 44 years old.

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If it was a thing a lot more people would be dead after their booster shot. 😆 And even it was a thing, the benefits far outweigh the risks for the general population.

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Yeah I'm sure the dead people who died from the vaxx said the same thing

I got COVID and am not vaccinated..won't get the shot. Was in an entire nursing home ward that had a COVID outbreak months after I had COVID and didn't get as much as a sniffle from spending hours in the nursing home around COVID victims.

Guess I'm immune without the shot.

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It actually *is* a thing. They killed off the Swine Flu vaccine for much less adverse reactions. Why do you think Pfizer is fighting tooth and nail only to dribble out select pieces and/or completely hide vaccine data?

I was all Mr. Vaccine in the beginning. But the rate at which all these "conspiracies" have come true scares the shit out of me.

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If it was a thing a lot more people would be dead after their booster shot. 😆 And even it was a thing, the benefits far outweigh the risks for the general population.


It was the same thing when they put airbags in cars. Some people would/could be killed by an airbag under the right circumstances, but airbags save 1000 or more times more lives than they take, but that wouldn't be any consolation to someone killed by one..

We're not dealing with rocket scientists here.



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How do you come up with the preposterous claim that the benefits of the vaccine outweigh the risks of the vaccine?
1) the virus isn't 100% fatal, it is actually very low. At worst it's close to 4% and that is overall with no adjustment for age or other contributing factors.
2) the vaccine only has a 20% efficacy rate. Yep, according to Pfizers own studies only 2 of every 10 people that get the shot will be spared from covid.
3) some people will never get covid whether they have the vaccine or not, it isn't a guarantee that you will get the virus.

Yet you think accepting a risk of blood clots or organ damage from the vaccine is worth it? Why? Is it because you foolishly believe all the bullshit from the fear mongering media? Listening to a bunch of talking heads that just read a teleprompter doesn't seem like a wise way to live your life.

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How do you come up with the preposterous claim that the benefits of the vaccine outweigh the risks of the vaccine?


He's regurgitating nonsense from the mainstream media.

But it's the exact opposite of what he says. 2021 had approximately 70,000 more excessive deaths in the U.S., than 2020, and 2022 is already up 100,000 more deaths per annual usual by a rate of 23.5%:
https://www.usmortality.com/excess-absolute

This is despite the fact that 2021 had reduced lockdowns and COVID had already become endemic. So where did all those excess deaths come from?

According to Steve Kirsch's estimates, we're looking at over 100,000 deaths in 2021 attributed to the vaccine:
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/new-vaers-analysis-reveals-hundreds

It could be more, given that the over-under of excess deaths by variance could include vaccine-related injuries leading to death, but we don't know for sure because it turns out a lot of medical facilities are hiding the data:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.21.21268209v1

For reference, according to the CDC, only 6% of COVID related deaths were from COVID alone, which works out to around the same figures as the seasonal flu:
https://archive.ph/FKUxW#selection-4559.289-4559.376

So for those who still don't get it:
The vaccine has an estimated death rate of three times that of COVID-only deaths.

That's also not including all of the vaccine-related injuries, or injuries that have yet to manifest themselves (and we'll be hearing or seeing a lot more people dropping dead throughout 2022 as the mRNA make the leap from the muscle tissue to the venous system: https://www.mdpi.com/1467-3045/44/3/73/htm)

Also... Israel:
https://archive.ph/gT8f7

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Added note. His death was ruled to be from"myocardial infarction" but its wasn't clear or definitive if its covid vaccine, BioNTech-Pfizer, related ! Now even 3 months later the status of his death has not changed.
He left behind a wife and 2 children + mortgage & car payments.
The wife filed with the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program but was rejected.

I have had covid. No biggie, Sick for 2 days. Im also un-vaxxed but are forced to take the vaccine now due travel for business. I absolutely hate being forced like this.

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I agree that mandates are stupid. Un vaxxed are of no threat to anyone but themselves.

As far as your anecdotal story, let me add one (and I'm glad in your case it was no biggie). My wife's cousin's husband was 48 and in perfect health. He got Covid, was intubated three days later, and three days after that his organs shut down. I never heard of any seasonal flu take out a young healthy person like that. Fortunately, each successive variant seems less lethal than the ones that preceded them, except they seem more transmissible.

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Because ventilators cause more damage than good, especially to the lungs:
https://khn.org/morning-breakout/ventilators-cause-their-own-damage-to-lungs-is-the-trauma-worth-the-benefits-for-covid-19-patients/


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Because he died from multiple organ failure (kidneys - liver), it wasn't the ventilator that killed him. I personally know several people who were saved by ventilators.

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If they were given remdesivir that's what most likely shut down the kidneys and the liver. The protocol they use for covid has been proven that it doesn't work! This is called genocide.... history is repeating itself. You can believe what yall wanna believe but remdesivir kills organs!!!!

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He died May of 2020, long before remdesivir was available.

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Most likely. He had just had his 4th (or 3rd) booster for a South America tour. Complained of chest pains that night and died. Similar thing happened to a family friend almost note for note. Healthy young girl. Had booster, keeled over face-first dead right into the floor that night. Like someone flipped a light switch. All extreme myocarditis reactions.

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Don't talk like that people will say you're a conspiracy theorist and a liar.

I believe you though.

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Their first concert outside the US this year was early March in Australia, given how over the top the Australians are about vaccinations any vaccinations would have likely been done well before the Australian date. Not saying vaccines didn't cause his death, but he would have had the vaccine weeks before now. The most likely cause of death was drug overdose. He had a history with heroin and nearly killed himself with an OD in the past where he was in a coma for 2 weeks. If I had to place money on whether he died from drugs or a vaccine I would put my money on drugs. If it was the vaccine I would have expected it to kill him closer to the time he took the vaccine which would have been before they started the overseas touring.

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I’m not ruling it out either because he did have his demons. But most side effects happen from two weeks to 30 days.

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True. But it is conjecture are to when he would have been vaccinated. While his first non-US date was early March the actual tour for this year started in February, so realistically you would expect the people to get their shots before they even started the tour rather than do their US gigs and then get vaccinated while on tour. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a believer in the vaccinations and think they are too fucking dangerous to even consider... but without an autopsy the most likely culprit was drugs. Even after he nearly died in 2001 he didn't stop taking drugs based on interview since that time where he had mentioned having drugs. Some people simply don't learn from their mistakes, and when you are in a coma for weeks you would think that surviving that you would learn to just say no. Though there is a long list of people that failed to learn from mistakes and ended up dead instead.

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There’s always the chance that his addictions and the vaccine played off each other as well. After beating his body up so badly over the years the vaccine may’ve just stressed his already-weak heart to the limit.

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Just saw that they found white powder in his hotel room. Given they were in Colombia what are the odds it was coke... Possible it was some coke laced with fentanyl which seems to be a trend lately.

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It wouldn't surprise me. If he didn't know there was fentanyl in it, very easy to overdose, I'd guess.

Edit: He was complaining about chest pains. I'm not sure that sounds like Fentanyl.

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Keep in mind, the messengers can stay in the human body for months, and make intracellular penetration within that time depending on a wide variety of circumstances. In some studies they maintained observations of titers for mRNA immunization for up to 84 days:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5475249/

In other words, manifestation of vaccine-related effects may not occur within the first month (or even first two months) of receiving a shot. And there's really no telling how long after the body may react or respond to the messengers if intracellular travel occurs.

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Given they have now disclosed that he had 10 different drugs in his system, it would appear he was trying to emulate Keith Richards life in one weekend. Given someone taking that many drugs in one night the only surprise is he didn't die sooner.

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We can't rule out the vaccine, but there's no reason to think the vaccine had anything to do with it either. I don't see any reason to bring the vaccine into it.

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I think the vaccine only got brought into it when the first reports of him dying popped up. Once it came out that he had more drugs in his system than you would find in a Walgreens it's pretty much a given it was drug related.

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Yeah, let’s use this guy’s death as an excuse to start ANOTHER vaccination debate.

I seriously don’t understand how some people’s minds work.

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Anyone who took that poison shot is as dumb as they come. These are FACTS. There is NO debate.

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I’m not interested in discussing it, thanks. I was merely commenting on how pathetic it is that people with an agenda jump on every celebrity death to make assumptions before a cause of death is even announced.

If you have to try that hard to convince others of your beliefs I think you need to look at yourself. No respect, no class.

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