https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yrv2zyd22o
In the past, Radiohead has faced pressure to cancel shows in Israel and take part in a cultural boycott of the country over its policies towards the Palestinians.
Yorke pushed back on that pressure, saying that "playing in a country isn't the same as endorsing its government".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aopKk56jM-I
Guess he's a creep after all.
Becoming a millionaire seems to do that to people. Radiohead has some great albums but Thom Yorke has been flopping it for awhile ever since he lost the ability to hit high notes and tried to reinvent himself as some wannabe bebop scat man. His opinion now is about as relevant as his singing.
shareYou kidding me? The problem to me really is the falsettos and high notes. Sometimes I wish he go a little but full voice like he used to in early albums.
He can also do it, I've seen it
I don't care. I find something wrong about telling people what to do and shaming them because of something I personally agree with.
sharePeople should always care when children's lives are at issue.
And if you can't shame a millionaire with a platform, who can you shame?
That doesn't mean they support what they do. Where do we draw the line? I don't recall anyone demanding to avoid Muslim countries after 9/11 or the London bombings or the attacks on Russian city hall that killed 145 people or any of these events: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks
And if you can't shame a millionaire with a platform, who can you shame?
Every time there's another terrorist attack by a muslim, all the media and activists do is cry that we shouldn't be mean to the poor muslims.
He's right to just go and play in Israel. It doesn't mean he supports the government, but even if he does, so what?
This girl breaks down the whole "not all Muslims" argument. It starts 55 seconds in.
https://youtu.be/Ry3NzkAOo3s?si=32ECi7BsOZLID6zd
Great retort, especially the end where she criticises the muslim girl for playing the victim.
She does forget to mention, though, that a very large group of that "peaceful majority" does support the deadly actions by those few radicals. They're not exactly irrelevant, they allow those things to happen.
Notice how you see "Jews for Palestine" but don't see "Muslims for Israel"?
shareWhy would you expect to though?
I think most people understand that all Arabs / Muslims in that part of the world hate Israel and wish it didn't exist.
But not all Jewish people are Zionists. In fact some of them aren't even Israeli!
You would think with how many Muslims there are in the world, you would at least see some of them forming groups. It's almost like they're scared to go against their own people.
shareBut that would be ridiculous to expect that.
Israel was only formed in the 1940s and a lot of Muslims have been killed in the establishment and expansion of that state.
Irrespective of anyone's politics, it's not hard to see that your aren't going to get any Muslims actively supporting that state. The best maybe would be those that would accept the two state solution.
But on the other hand, whilst all Zionists may be Jewish, the converse doesn't necessarily have to exist, so it's hardly surprising to find that some Jewish people will be supportive of Palestinian rights.
I mean, when you have Israel surrounded by Hamas, Hezbollah, Al-Qaeda, Boko Haram, the Taliban, ISIS and the Houthi, at some point you have to see why Israel is paranoid. We're talking 49 majority Muslim countries that conveniently have an issue with the only Jewish country in the world. Over 800,000 Jews lived in the Middle East in 1945 compared to only 4,500 now.https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2019-06-19/debates/F75D29CB-C4C8-447D-A028-1FA05CD3594D/JewishRefugeesFromTheMiddleEastAndNorthAfrica
shareI don't think it's paranoia. The Muslims hate them in a very real way and wish they didn't exist, due to what I was saying in my previous post...
But anyway, I wasn't trying to dive into another (ultimately pointless) discussion re Israel per se. Was just pointing out it would be pretty unrealistic to aspect to see any Muslim groups rallying for Israel.
Would be like turkeys voting for Christmas...
It makes no sense for muslims in Europe or Asia to display such hatred towards Jews. Israel would not be out to "get them". It's a sentiment that's deeper and goes back further than just the foundation of the state Israel.
shareIt makes no sense for muslims in Europe or Asia to display such hatred towards Jews.
I'm not the one doing the conflating.
But even less reason for them to hate Israel.
If you did not conflate Jews with Israel, you'd have to have written:-
It makes no sense for muslims in Europe or Asia to display such hatred towards Israel.
Muslims do the conflating, not me. I don't think you've heard many regular muslims talk.
No, it makes even less sense, they have nothing to do with Israel.
But thanks for perfectly explaining why it does make sense for people to hate muslims.👍
You literally just conflated the two words I pointed out in your sentence! 😂
But anyway, no problem, glad I could point out that vexing issue of the source of Muslims hatred towards Israel for you... 🙄
You are such an incredibly dumb shithead.
I conflated absolutely nothing. My point was that they hate Jews. That's why I very clearly stated it goes back further than the foundation of Israel.
You always resort to the same pathetic tactics when you have no argument, Douchefeet.🍆🍆🍆
LOL 😂. I wasn't even making an argument buddy!
I was just appreciating your deliberate conflation to try and mask what Muslims in "Europe or Asia" showing a displeasure with Israel was all about and why it actually makes perfect sense.
I'm not really interested in arguing the point with you, I just found it funny 👍.
So you find it funny that you're ignorant about the views of muslims in those parts or any part of the world...kay...
You'd probably shit your pants if you'd hear them talk. I conflated nothing, not deliberately or unintentionally.
No. Like I said I found YOU and your deliberate conflation funny. I even quoted you and highlighted your deliberate misleading word choice. Muslims running about in Europe displaying hatred towards Jews! LOL, yeah sure, we're all seeing that rather than protests against Israel aren't we... 🤡
As I said, I wasn't attempting to humilitate you again by pointing out your daftness (obviously I understand your position on the matter), I just found the primary school level conflation so transparently obvious it was funny.
Surprised you didn't call all protesters, Muslim or not, Hamas supporters as well 🤣.
Anyway if you want to continue doing your usual back and and forth, until the other person gets bored of your repetition, to secure yourself (yet another) magnificent victory (in your own head!) then please feel free to do so. But that's good enough for me here.
Good day to you Sir 👍
You only highlighted bullshit that exists in your head. *I* was referring to their hatred towards Jews, not Israel, which is a misleading claim that *you* keep making.
Bitch, you lost the minute you replied to me. Go cry somewhere else.🍆🍆🍆
Just making clear that *I* am not the one doing the conflating:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14060605/British-Jewish-man-Amsterdam-attacked-violent-pro-Palestine-gang.html
LOL.
You still don't get it:-
https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/672dd6e88e07205b3712924d/Israeli-Football-Fans-Attacked-In-Anti-semitic-Attacks-In-Amsterdam-Supposedly
Anti Israel is NOT the same thing as being anti Jewish. Trying to claim one as the other is conflation. And THIS is an absolutely perfect example you have given here...
I did not reply to you, I was addressing people with at least one brain cell
But talk about "not getting it". You obviously did not read the article. The muslims mentioned conflated Israel with Jewish, you freaking trollboy. Everybody gets this except you.
Now go take a look in the mirror and laugh at your ugly ass.
Oh I got your were making a cowardly attempting to try and avoid replying directly with your shit point.
But like I said, I'm glad you made it. You'd be hard pressed to find a better example of the conflation you were doing and exactly what I was talking about.
Only an absolute moron would believe it some kind of miraculous coincidence that on the same night that Israeli football hooligans were going about destroying property, chanting about killing Arabs and kids in Gaza, booing during a minutes silence for victims of the Spanish floods, etc that some Muslims randomly decided they were going to start attacking Jews in the same city, on the same night! 😂
Honestly, it's so utterly stupid, I'm glad you posted it on here as an example. Thanks 👍🏼.
The Israeli supporters were partying with the Ajax supporters just after the game, they were in a good mood. Of course you leave out that those other things allegedly happened the day before. Of course you leave out there had already been protests against the Israeli presence in the city before that. Of course you leave out that confrontations and attacks against the Israeli supporters had already been planned on social media. Of course you leave out those attacks were totally random, even threatening children.
You are the dumbest fuck around. Anyone who reads the article can see the muslims were doing the conflating. Your delusions can't change the truth. Just go read the Quran and jerk off. I'll leave the cold hard evidence to everybody who understands logic. Have a lovely day and tell Kameltoe I said hi.🍆🍆🍆
Of course you leave out there had already been protests against the Israeli presence in the city before that.
You did not even finish elementary school, did you?
The fucking point was that you suggested that the Israeli fans provoked their attackers with alleged violent behavior. No, shithead, even before they arrived "pro-Palestinian" protestors protested their presence with aggression. Only a failed abortion like you would think that a bunch of Israeli folks visiting Amsterdam for a football match would spontaneously decide to go on a rampage against everything pro-Palestinian after that. Or an anti-semitic who believes it's in their nature, of course...
Another thing you failed to understand is that those things allegedly happened the day before the match and the muslim attackers from the next day were a whole different group who had responded to social media posts and, as the article shows, were randomly going after "jews", clearly conflating two different groups.
Will you understand any of what I said now? No, of course not. You will just keep on deflecting by repeating ad nauseum that I'm the one doing the conflating while I simply repeated what muslims say. You're obviously one of those types that just think your delusions become true if you say them often enough.
I'm sure we won't have to wait long for another act by muslims to destroy another one of those delusions. Let's see if you're going to laugh at your own stupidity as well then.👍
...even before they arrived "pro-Palestinian" protestors protested their presence with aggression...
Dear god, you lack complete comprehension skills.
You also have a habit of misconstrueing what I say. I've actually always supported a two-state solution, but in your anti-semitic mind, criticism of muslims can not possibly be allowed.
I made a distinction between the "pro-Palestinian" protesters" from the day before the match and the group of muslims who went on a "jew hunt" after the match. And yes, I question the motives of those protesters, just like I question yours. It's obvious muslims give you a hard-on.
No matter how you twist and turn it, local muslims going on a "Jew hunt" is NOT the logical result of Israeli football fans allegedly destroying a Palestinian flag after being attacked by pro-Palestinian protestors. It's just being used as an excuse.
https://www.footboom1.com/en/news/football/2044515-senator-condemns-antisemitic-attack-on-makkabi-footballers-in-berlin
I know you'll come up with some kind of excuse, but don't even bother. I guess it's okay to attack Jews as long as you yell "Free Palestine"...🙄
Anyway, you are a mentally ill being. Like I said, I'm addressing people with actual common sense.🍆🍆🍆
...Like I said, I'm addressing people with actual common sense.
Well, nothing I said was as stupid as what you did when you replied to a post that nobody supposedly reads and wasn't even addressed to you.
Have fun playing with your dolls, little girl.🍆🍆🍆
I have yet to see an Israeli flag hanging from a window or balcony around town. Not even at the local synagogue. Those Palestinian flags are everywhere, though.
shareIt's because those same people chant "from the river to the sea" without knowing what river and sea they're talking about. They just go with the crowd.
shareAgreed 100%
shareThe real evil history of Israel:
http://www.printernational.co.uk/timmann/history.htm
F-ck Wagner. Chilly Gonzales.
https://youtu.be/VjXGlcqbHNo?si=X58zKzMnYpNbC11x
Muslims are scum. Watching Yanks pander to them is bizarre.
shareI would not call Muslims ‘scum’ but we’ve learned only too well that there are some very lethal operators within their faith. Happily, Allied forces have introduced many thousands of these terrorists to ALLAH.
That’s an awful lot of virgins in line to marry worthless killers.
Correction: extremist Muslims are scum.
shareTrue. Here's some sensible moderates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4QDlIdkjpo
Obviously they're insane. But this woman explains what I'm talking about:
https://moviechat.org/nm0948810/Thom-Yorke/672391a34bb0f13a47867c5d/No-Problem-Playing-Sun-City?reply=6723de3c4bb0f13a47867fa3