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Transgenderism is ultra conservative


When you really think about it, transgenderism isn't as progressive as some may think. In fact, it's extremely conservative because transgenderism in many ways affirms gender stereotypes rather than seek to challenge them. If a man likes stereotypical feminine things then his woman trapped inside the body of a man. If a woman like stereotypical masculine things then they are man trapped inside the body of a woman. Doesn't transgenderism narrow gender dynamics rather than make them more diverse? If a girl is a tomboy does that mean they're man trapped instead the body of a woman? If a boy isn't macho doesn't that mean his a woman trapped instead the body of a man?

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Being transgender does not mean that you present yourself in a stereotypical way. You will find that there are lots of trans women who present butch or tomboy aswell as lots of trans women who present super femme. The same goes for the trans boys, some are super macho, some are more femme... You know just like cis women and cis men. A lot of trans ppl are actually scared of this. They think they have to be super macho as trans guy or super femme as trans girl so that therapists actually believe them and allow the proper treatment, when in fact the only thing that matters is to be yourself.

You want to be yourself and if you happen to realize that your gender identity does not match up with who you really are, you are free to change.

You might want to take a quick look at the gender unicorn:
http://www.transstudent.org/gender

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Being transgender does not mean that you present yourself in a stereotypical way.

But how does someone know there are transgender unless they appeal to gender stereotypes? This isn't a judgment just a honest question.

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But how does someone know there are transgender unless they appeal to gender stereotypes? This isn't a judgment just a honest question.
well for example:

-being uncomfortable with ones genitalia
-disliking the secondary sex characteristics
-hating your male/female sounding voice
-feeling better with different hormones

These aren't feelings cisgender women and men have, no matter how they present themselves.

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These aren't feelings cisgender women and men have, no matter how they present themselves.

That's probably true. But I'm sure there are cisgender people who may have those types of feelings from time to time.

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Actually, you are wrong. I am cisfemale and I would say that you are wrong with this, since I thought I should have been male and I like all things masculine. And I am the most femme looking and female around.

This cis-term is kind of stupid to me, because most cis-people are in denial of their bisexuality and gender identity by trying to fit in society and religious dogma by forcing them to act out their lives in certain ways in order not to be riduculed nor criticized.

I would say that most cis-persons are pretending to be straight and gender acceptable in order to fit in a conservative/traditional ideal.



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Actually, you are wrong. I am cisfemale and I would say that you are wrong with this, since I thought I should have been male and I like all things masculine. And I am the most femme looking and female around.

But that's my point, you have girls who look feminine but like masculine things or you have tomboys in which girls prefer boy's fashion over girl's fashion. However, to say because a girl like stereotypically masculine things that means she's a boy trapped inside the body of a girl seems like ultra conservative position.


I would say that most cis-persons are pretending to be straight and gender acceptable in order to fit in a conservative/traditional ideal.

I wouldn't go so as far as to say they're pretending to be straight. However, I don't think there is such a thing as being straight or gay or bi. I think there are just people with different sexual desires and sexual desires could change.



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Never have I been more certain of a user being a troll.

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@LaLlama Who exactly is the troll here?

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