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Why everyone should vote for Biden over Trump

posted a year ago by e3e34ifj (1912)
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I am a liberal but I'm not the biggest Biden fan. I agree that he is WAY too old and not in the right mental shape to be president. But here is why Biden is still abetter candidate than Trump:

1. Biden is FAR better at keeping the peace and uniting citizens. Even those who hate him can admit there have been very few riots. Trump was a bully who only riled up and instigated conflicts instead of properly de-escalating them like a real man would. Stuttering is not the same as being immature.

2. Trump is almost as old as Biden. Replacing an 82-year-old president with a 79-year-old president is basically a step backward. Anyone who wants Biden out of his age but wants him replaced with Trump is a complete hypocrite. And no, Trump has not "aged better". Just because he applies more hair-dye and tanning solution doesn't mean he's any less mentally fried than Biden.

3. Biden handled COVID infinitely better than Trump. Mandates were lifted at a gradual level, whereas the country was in peril at the end of Trump's reign. No injecting disinfectant or ignoring vaccines.

4. Biden is likely being controlled by other Democrats in power due to his age and incompetence. While I don't like the idea of a puppet president, I would much rather prefer a president who is being controlled by smart and sane people than a rogue hothead who can't listen to the people he hired to give advice.

5. Trump supports Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

6. Trump is a felon. Biden is not.

I'd prefer a younger and more fit Democrat over Biden, but the fact is that it aint gonna happen. We're stuck in another Hillary vs Trump situation and we will be over and over and over again until we decide to vote for presidents who are ACTUAL FUCKING LEADERS and not celebrities or "the safe pick". I don't see Biden making it to his 86th birthday anyways and maybe the VP can take over.

[–] BKB (9919) a year ago

Sorry, but I don't agree with any of this and furthermore the vaccine(s) simply don't work, people have died from it due to complications and it's been well documented and people don't want to admit it because in the end, you were suckered & bullied into this.. I'm not vaccinated, never will be vaccinated and feel Fantastic.. How the fuck do you explain this?? At the time Biden made it sound like if you didn't take the vaccine, not only would you lose your employment, but you would most likely come down with Covid and possibly die from it and that was Bullshit.. The CDC and Fauci along with Biden will tell you Millions died from this.. Prove it?? They tell you Millions died from this and were supposed to believe it, never Question it and if you do, you're a threat to Democracy and on the stupid FBI watchlist and THAT'S Bullshit, so sorry if I would rather pick the lesser of 2 Evils in Trump than an old man with clear cognitive issues in Joe Biden who walks 10 feet and falls flat on his face and surprisingly, I'm surprised the Left haven't blamed Trump for that??

[–] PaladinNJ (21510) a year ago

Trump is for the vaccine. He requires his employees to be vaccinated and even has a doctor on staff who's only job is to make sure no one gets near him unless they have been vaccinated and/or have a clean COVID test.

FYI: Trump has also fallen flat on his face as well when in public.

Before you ask. For the record: No. I did not vote for Biden

[–] Corbell (10995) a year ago

1. The riots have stopped because the violent, evil thugs (and/or the people behind them) got what they wanted, their side in power. That is not a plus for Biden.

2. Yes, Trump is as old as Biden. But Trump is in better shape. This is not a reason to vote for Biden.

3. LOL. Biden time was over a very different period of the crisis than Trump's. Comparison is.... difficult and extremely subjective.

4. A puppet with unelected and unnamed, thus UNACCOUNTABLE people secretly in control, is NOT a reason to vote for Biden. Trump, despite his off putting personality, actually governed in a very cautious and mainstream manner.

5. Trump does NOT support Russia's invasion of the Ukraine. He is NOT wanting to see the war go on, just to degrade the military threat from Russia. This is NOT a reason to vote for Biden and IS a reason to vote for TRump.

6. Trump is the target of a very evil and oppressive witch hunt by very bad people. That Biden is their guy, is NOT a reason to vote for him, and indeed, is a reason to vote for Trump. You do not want to support oppression and tyranny.

[–] robocat893 (15926) a year ago

Most Americans hate Trump and would vote for a sack of potatoes before voting for him. Patriots don't like their presidential candidate being charged with 91 felonies mostly for being a traitor. Trump will never be president again.

[–] Corbell (10995) a year ago

Everyone noticed that you were unable to challenge my points. LOSER.

[–] robocat893 (15926) a year ago

I don't challenge your points because I just don't care. You are insignificant to me. Your stupidity and gullibility is astounding just because you support Trump.

[–] Corbell (10995) a year ago

Said the person that takes all those charges by the leftards, seriously.

[–] robocat893 (15926) a year ago

Those 91 felony charges against Trump are valid and he is in serious trouble. If you stupid Trump supporters would just support a different Republican candidate then you probably won't lose next year.

[–] Corbell (10995) a year ago

Wow. It is so nice of you to give me such good advice.

MEanwhile, those charges are proof of nothing but what oppressive tryants you leftards are.

[–] robocat893 (15926) a year ago

I'm glad I'm not a leftard then. But I get it. According to you anyone who doesn't like you or Trump is a leftard. Proof of nothing? Most of Trump's crimes are on video and audio recordings. Is that just fake news? Your stupidity and gullibility continues.

[–] Corbell (10995) a year ago

You are trying to arrest the leader of the opposition, to prevent a free and fair election.

YOu are certainly a leftard.

[–] robocat893 (15926) a year ago

I'm not trying to arrest anyone you stupid fuck. I'm not a cop. But like most patriotic Americans I know Trump is a traitor. Since you worship Trump you are a traitor too. If you ever left your trailer park you would notice this.

According to you the Democrats outsmarted all you Republicans by rigging the 2020 election involving thousands if not millions of co-conspirators across state lines without getting caught. Republicans haven't produced one shred of evidence to prove the election was stolen. Funny, you call Democrats stupid. Do you have proof that the 2020 election was stolen because no one else has?

[–] Corbell (10995) a year ago

If my accusation is so stupid and traitorous, it is funny that instead of going into it, you change the subject to something I did not even mention, ,ie the election.

[–] robocat893 (15926) a year ago

Whatever... I don't care. Good night.

[–] Corbell (10995) a year ago

Sleep tight. Dream of your enemies all being arrested and being political prisoners.

No way that could have any unforeseen consequences down the line....

It will be fine...

[–] e3e34ifj (1912) a year ago

Is this your only tactic? Suggest something really stupid and, when it's rightly ignored, act like your opponent has backed down and claim some pseudo-victory?

That's like challenging Mike Tyson to a boxing match, taking the first punch, and then backing out of the ring and calling him out for not having a good credit score. Then you "prove" your credit score is higher and, when he continues boxing you instead of challenging your credit score, you declare yourself the victor because he "changed the subject".

Cope harder bro.

[–] xanthas (3215) a year ago

robocat is correct. The GOP should dump tRump before it's too late because not only will he lose big, he will drag down republican House and Senate candidates with him.

[–] robocat893 (15926) a year ago

Unfortunately for Trump supporters they are too stupid to see this.

[–] e3e34ifj (1912) a year ago

Let it happen. I'm sure Trump will campaign AGAIN in 2028, from prison of course, and he'll still be "in perfect mental shape" at 85 years old to most conservatives, and republicans will back him and demand he return to office. "He's still the legit president!" they'll say, 8 years and they still cant cope with the fact that Biden won. Maybe he'll finally get down to a healthy weight from eating solely prison food.

[–] e3e34ifj (1912) a year ago

"2. Yes, Trump is as old as Biden. But Trump is in better shape. This is not a reason to vote for Biden."

I really don't get why or how Republicans can be this blind. Trump is NOT in better shape. He just uses more hair dye and skin tanning solution. Biden would look about the same if he dumped as much money into his appearance. We're talking about a morbidly obese 79-year-old man who looks like melting cheese. He looks absolutely horrible and goes on insane rambles that make absolutely no sense. Anyone who thinks he's in good shape is blind, whether accidental or intentional.

[–] Pete314 (3011) a year ago

TDS? There is a cure. Look for a job outside the ministry of truth...
Biden moves and talks as if he is already DEAD. No one will vote for a freakin' zombie president.

[–] Kazak (2187) a year ago

Any serious analysis of actuarial data will suggest that Biden should live longer from today than Trump will.

[–] Corbell (10995) a year ago

Trump looks good for someone in his late 70s. Biden does not.

Either one or both of them could die at any time. I am not saying that Trump's youth and vigor are a reason to vote for him,

but your list was supposedly "reasons to vote for biden". They are both old. Age is NOT a reason to vote for Biden.

Any honest person would admit that.

[–] e3e34ifj (1912) a year ago

Any honest moron, maybe. Trump does not look good.

https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Trump-1683793542.jpg?resize=770%2C513&quality=80

He looks quite bad. You can see every wrinkle he's desperately trying to cover up with makeup. He looks like an 80-year-old man, just like Biden. Biden doesn't look great either but he would look just like Trump if he wore as much makeup and orange skin spray.

[–] Martoto (5036) a year ago

Famously, Trump said that Republican supporters are so dumb and subservient that he could shoot somebody dead in Times Square and they would still support him if he told them what they wanted to hear.

Lo and behold he's caught and indicted on national security breaches. Tries to get other people to cover it up, then tells his supporters it's purely a political witch-hunt (why try to cover it up then?)

Can you imagine how Republicans and the media would treat Biden and the Dems if he bragged about voters being suckers, and then unapologetically endangered national security?

[–] Pete314 (3011) a year ago

Media and Dems would simply ignore this if it's done by Biden. If you don't notice such incidents then at least your bubble works well.

[–] Martoto (5036) a year ago

So I'm wrong for not noticing these same "incidents" done by Biden, which you can't name yourself because they're just hypothetical of course, (that's why you said "would ignore" rather than "did ignore") but it's ok for you to pretend that Trump didn't let everyone know that he is simply grifting from a bunch of subservient bootlicks.

[–] Pete314 (3011) a year ago

I did not say you are wrong. I said: Leave your bubble!

[–] Martoto (5036) a year ago

Oh the reason everyone knows that Trump bragged about the reps being subservient, and nobody knows of any equivalent claim made by Biden that everyone's pretending he didn't say, is my "bubble"?

[–] Pete314 (3011) a year ago

The filters you use are parts of your bubble. When you start reading something about Trump with "orange man bad" in mind, you will read it in a certain way.

[–] Martoto (5036) a year ago

You still cannot answer.

[–] Pete314 (3011) a year ago

You still don't listen.

[–] Martoto (5036) a year ago

I don't hear you offering the equivalent claim that Biden made that you claim I'm ignoring.

[–] Pete314 (3011) a year ago

Why do I have to offer it? Are you aware of news? Are you aware that there are even news outside of your bubble?

[–] Martoto (5036) a year ago

Trump's confession that he takes republican voters isn't in my bubble though. Trump supporters are aware of it.

So what is the equivalent Biden statement about dem voters and I'll ignore it for you and prove your point?

You can't just say "if" he said something like that I would or do ignore it. But if you provide the equivalent comment from Biden, at worst I'll just ignore it and your point will be proved. At best I'll agree with you and denounce Biden for saying whatever comparable thing it was he said about Dem voters. So let's have it.

And you can't just say "everybody knows" or "everybody says" or "it's in the news". According to you, I'm not everybody. I'm just part of a bubble that doesn't know "the news".

[–] Pete314 (3011) a year ago

Ehm...yes.

[–] NorrinRad (5468) a year ago

[–] Pete314 (2169) an hour ago
The filters you use are parts of your bubble. When you start reading something about Trump with "orange man bad" in mind, you will read it in a certain way.

Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms or supports one's prior beliefs or values. People display this bias when they select information that supports their views, ignoring contrary information, or when they interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing attitudes. The effect is strongest for desired outcomes, for emotionally charged issues, and for deeply entrenched beliefs.

Confirmation bias is insuperable for most people, but they can manage it, for example, by education and training in critical thinking skills.

In the case of the actions of DJT with the 4 Indictments and 91 charges? Criminality is Confirmed because he DID those things. DJT has to learn how to stop Crime-ing. 🗽👍🗽

[–] raymondoz2007 (2098) a year ago

MLK was indicted too

[–] NorrinRad (5468) a year ago

[–] raymondoz2007 (1830) 21 minutes ago
MLK was indicted too

I'm pretty sure MLK was arrested a number of times. I'm not sure he was ever officially indicted for anything. 🤔🤔🤔

[–] Gd5150 (11750) a year ago

Democrat “voters” riot in Democrat cities in Democrat states encouraged by the Democrat media at ABCNNBCBS.

“It was Trumps fault”

Do you not see a slight problem with this? Just a little?

The rest of your points are asinine and totally unsupported by evidence which we’ve come to expect from Democrat lemmings. It’s funny you posted this in the Trump thread.

[–] e3e34ifj (1912) a year ago

You just hate facts, homie. If Trump was truly the amazing leader he was, that shit would not have happened. Period. And I'm not sure how many Democrats were rioting in the White House in January of 2021. Is that an asinine statement too?

[–] Gd5150 (11750) a year ago

You didn’t state any homes.

[–] [deleted] a year ago

This is what mental illness looks like, or at this point i don't know if you're being ironic.

Remember when everyone told us that with trump in the white house that the world would descend into chaos? we'd invade perú, the world would descend into global war and crazyness, but what happened? the only president not to give us more war, but actually went around the world looking to make peace.

now what do we have since he went? war in ukraine and the very likely possibilty of some kind of world war because this thing in the middle east can only get worse. so on whos watch is the world falling apart?

the vax did nothing, it's only giving people cardiac arrests.

"america in one word? footsteps on the himalayas, xi pong un, cheetos and walkie-talkies"

[–] Kazak (2187) a year ago

I don’t vote for Republicans because I’m not all that concerned about rich people. I expect they’ll be just fine.

[–] SamNoyoun (5850) a year ago

I would vote for a sack of potatoes over Trump...

[–] tom8 (3119) a year ago

"Biden is FAR better at keeping the peace"

LOL Right........ War in Europe, not seen in 70 years!

shit would never have happened if Donald T was president.
Putin would not have dared it. Every sane person knows that.

[–] e3e34ifj (1912) a year ago

How is Europe our problem? Joe Biden is the president of the United States, not the entire world. That's like saying a football coach of a professional team was awful because ANOTHER team, completely unrelated, lost some games. Are you sane enough to know this?

[–] tom8 (3119) a year ago

so biden is better at keeping the peace in america.... that IS what you are saying.

what peace are we talking about?