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Should Maxine Waters lose her job?


...or even be arrested? A public official who encouraged violence on Trump's cabinet members is disgusting,and I'm surprised anyone supports her in this matter. Even being bitter about your party losing an election doesn't excuse this behavior. I think lesser people would find themselves in criminal court for doing this.

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There's absolutely nothing wrong with encouraging protest. Nor did she say anything inciting violence. There, now you know.

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You are wrong, and saying she didn't say it doesn't equal facts. This is her words.
“If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd, and you push back on them!”
If you claim she was speaking metaphorically, you are full of shit.
She brags that people are at their private residence keeping them from sleeping. You should be disgusted with yourself for even considering that to be acceptable. How would you feel if your mom held a position in the Whitehouse and they acted like this to her.

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You're the one claiming she's speaking metaphorically, not me. There's no violence implied in that statement. I would be ashamed as hell if my mother worked for these crazy assholes. (She would never do it, either. She was a good person.)

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Is pushing back not a physical altercation? She's saying to physically approach them,plain and simple.

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You've never heard the phrase "push back" in this type of context? It doesn't mean put your hands on somebody, no.

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P.S. I can see why you said metaphor now, but this isn't metaphor so much as idiom.

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In the context of her instructing them to physically approach them, I think she said exactly what she meant. She may have towed the line of deniability, but I think based around her other behavior she was absolutely encouraging violence. She did say those words, and it's convenient to say "I didn't mean literally".

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Look, maybe this will help you. If her saying "push back" is meant as physical retaliation, then the initial "push" was physical as well. Is that what you think she meant?

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What the hell are you talking about? 🙄

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Logic.

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Or lack thereof, obviously.

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OP, you're an idiot. She never encouraged violence. Get your facts straight.

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See above dipshit,she did. Dont pretend you didn't know what she was encouraging just because your a bitter liberal too.

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Push back does not imply violence, idiot.

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Do you not consider someone pushing you an act of violence? Are you being intentionally niave to her words?

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I noticed you're deliberately misrepresenting what she said by omitting the part of her sentence that suggests she was speaking rhetorically. Her complete sentence:

"And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them and you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere."

All of which begs the question as to why you would stoop to editing out the part that runs counter to your point. Maybe it's because your claim she is advocating violence is too flawed to stand on its own merits.

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If a redneck racist asshole said the same things about Mexican illegal alians, are honestly saying that sounds completely innocent? Give me a break, she's clearly trying to take this to another level, and your trying to tiptoe around semantics.

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I call you out for changing her sentence to omit full context and you dismiss that as semantics?

That's hilarious. If a reporter did that they'd be seriously reprimanded if not fired because the omission misrepresents what she said.

You're apparently not aware that the context of who is saying something matters in determining intent. That's why jurists are instructed to consider individual character and past statements when deciding if the accused is guilty of intent. So yeah, of course if David Duke said that it'd be interpreted differently because of his past history advocating an ideology based on hate.

I'm no fan of Maxine but does she have any history of calling for violence or inciting violent insurrections? No? Well then it's absurd to assume "push back" was meant literally when it's so commonly meant rhetorically including in the part you omitted. This is just common sense.

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What am I cutting out? It's a direct quote.

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Either you honestly understand what "push back ON" means, or you're an idiot.

Your argument is like claiming that "fallout from the election" literally refers to the aftermath of a nuclear bomb.

Keep lying.

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Yeah his blatant and obvious dishonestly is really quite stunning. Not unlike someone we know.

It's obvious he knows he's wrong and is just trying to troll.

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He's been a normal poster elsewhere, but on this board he has tossed aside all sense of credibility in order to pull crap like this constantly.

He lost me when I pointed out an irrelevant question of his was irrelevant, and he went off the rails and decided my response meant that "half" of what I posted was "lies."

I don't know what happened to him.

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I am a regular poster, I just hate the one sided perspective you and others on the left love to embrace. I've made it clear that my issue with this is the double standard. Feel free to pretend not to see it, but that's on you.

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It's not a direct quote. You ended the sentence prematurely "you push back on them." to make it sound like she was implying violence without including the part about telling them they're not welcome.

Like I said, any reporter would have been seriously reprimanded if not fired for putting a period halfway through the sentence since the omission misrepresents what she actually said. She was talking about telling them they're not welcome.

Once again, the entire sentence.

"And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them and you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere."

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Yawn... You bore me and I get tired of making you look silly with your lopsided logic that any middle schooler can see through. Expect this as my stock reply for every time you reply to me. I can't stand feigned ignorance, and it's even worse when it's real.

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He has no idea of the difference between the usage of the word "at" and "on". Maybe when he gets to high school, he will grasp the difference. Currently, he implies he only has a middle school education.

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Yeah he clearly doesn't have much education to not know that omitting half a sentence taking a quote out of context is journalistic malpractice and a fireable offense.

I grossly overestimated him.

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I'd say you grossly 'overwhelmed' him. LOL

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Stand by my original statement. Idiot.

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ah, so you think trump should be impeached?

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