Trump drama ...


stir up North Korea, go to North Korea and pretend to make peace, declare a big victory. Nothing happened. North Korea was never going to bomb the US. This was a national drama set up by the Right-Wing media to make Trump look like he knows what he's doing. Clearly he doesn't and he never will.

He has insulted our allies pointlessly. He started a trade war. He has not brought about any economic growth and instead has to claim credit for Obama's 8 year long ramp-up of jobs. He is throwing millions of people off health care, and causing many others to go bankrupt. The few companies he has spoken sternly too and claimed to averted off-shoring with, and still firing Americans and going overseas for labor.

Trump's promises as hollow as his heart and his head.

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Though he did manage to slab & tag Hillary.

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I don't get the point of pointing fingers at Hillary any more.,, She's not even president nor ever will be from now on. He's the president who holds the power, position, and can do whatever nasty thing that Hillary could if she were in that place but she isn't so it's Trump instead.

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I don't get the point of pointing fingers at Hillary any more.,,


Regardless, I will not be deterred with a wooden stake & silver bullets.

Let us proceed...

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Hillary is still in the public eye, I have every right to be concerned that that bitch might be out there influencing impressionable minds.

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It was like watching the Undertaker do the tombstone.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyJKrP7L-kM

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You're right that North Korea was never going to bomb the US. Not even North Korea would make such a claim. They were suggesting attacking South Korea, but they weren't going to do that either. The whole point of Kim Jong Un testing rocket distance was to convert his nuclear program into something that boosts his country's economy and maybe allows him to sit at the big kid's table.

After Obama was elected, you could see Kim screaming out "I have rockets! I have rockets!" but he fell short because repubs wouldn't allow a democrat to have such success.

Then Trump enters the White House and Kim pushes his buttons to the point where Trump begins daring North Korea to launch, and republicans start thinking "Oh shit! We better start talking before these two idiots kill us all."

Well played, Kim. Well played.

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What the hell? North Korea has threatened to bomb the US on many occasions. It's not even debatable.

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North Korea cannot threaten what they do not have the capacity to achieve. Their ICBMs don't even reach half way here.

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Personally I don't want to find out if the missiles can reach the U.S.

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They can't.

The furthest they've ever floated a test missile is over Japan.

It's not about "finding out" if they can. It's the fact that we know they can't because they've never successfully tested a long range ICBM that could come anywhere close.

And it's just not realistic to believe they have the missile capability to reach the US when they've never successfully tested one that can.

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Fail.

Your two year old news is off topic and on the wrong board.

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You don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about. NK has deliberately test flown their missiles on very high (lofted) trajectories which result in a short horizontal range. It is fairly easy to estimate the maximum range of a missile from trajectory parameters (derived from radar data) as well as data on rocket engine performance. There is more than enough information in the public domain to support the conclusion that they can hit the US.

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You're being ridiculously hyperbolic because it's actually YOU that has no idea what you're talking about.

Successfully launching an ICBM from Pyongyang into the west coast is dependent on more than just rocket engine performance sherlock.

Just as important is the navigation system to deliver it. North Korea doesn't have their own GPS satellites capable of accurately guiding an ICBM. There's speculation they could seek permission from China to use theirs, but until they test a missile using GPS, that's purely in the realm of speculative fiction. China's not going to share their GPS technology with North Korea to help them develop their nuclear program that China does not want to see happen.

In other words, NK would be relying on 50 year old Soviet technology to guide an ICBM 8000+ miles.

Fat chance of that ever happening when they've never delivered one further than Japan. There have been too many failed launch tests to count. 😆

Stop buying into the hyperbolic sensationalism peddled by MSM. Anyone that works in material sciences or engineering could tell you that without proof of concept, it doesn't exist. Successful empirical testing separates fact from theory.

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What an embarrassing post. ICBMs generally do not use GPS for navigation. They rely on very high-end inertial navigation systems aided by stellar measurements (celestial navigation). Every single ICBM in the US arsenal uses celestial navigation, although the Trident II can accept GPS updates as well. No land-based American ICBM has ever used GPS.

The maximum range of a ballistic missile has absolutely nothing to do with navigation anyways. It is a function of position and velocity at burnout, which in turn is a function of best case booster vehicle performance. There can be no doubt that NK's missiles have sufficient range to hit the US. Whether or not they can steer the missile accurately enough to hit a specific target is a separate issue.

I'm not sure what your point is about "50 year old" Soviet technology. Soviet and American ICBM's of that time were more than capable of hitting cities at intercontinental distances. It is extraordinarily unlikely that NK's rockets are stuck in the 1960's either. They've smuggled large amounts of dual-use components into their country from places such as Iran. They aren't stuck with vecuum tubes and punch cards. LOLLLLLLLLLLL

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You have no idea what you're talking about and you're pulling that out of your ass as usual. Apparently mods don't like it when I use explicit insults, hence the deletes above, but that's really quite a challenging task when you so often make up alternative facts to support your conclusions.

There remain significant unknowns surrounding the accuracy of North Korea’s ballistic missiles. Expert observers have said that these missiles are usually inaccurate because of their reliance on early guidance systems acquired from the Soviet Union.


https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/north-koreas-military-capabilities

FYI: ICBMs are "ballistic missiles" and the Council on Foreign Relations is more credible than CNN.

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Completely and utterly false.

David Wright of the Union of Concerned Scientists said that if the missile hadn't been lofted into the sky and had flown on a standard trajectory, it would have been capable of traveling 13,000 kilometers, or 8,100 miles.

"Such a missile would have more than enough range to reach Washington, DC, and in fact any part of the continental United States," Wright said in a statement, though he noted that range probably wouldn't be possible if the missile were fitted with a heavy nuclear warhead.


https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/28/politics/north-korea-missile-launch/index.html

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Dude, an ICBM by itself isn't the threat. It's obvious I was talking about ICBMs with a nuclear payload. Also, the Hwasong-15 didn't reach the speed required to make it over here. That kind of speed causes it to burn up in the atmosphere. It will need a heat shield for reentry, and a payload light enough to make the distance, two things North Korea does not yet contain. That is why they shoot their rockets near Japan.

If they had the ability to reach the US, they would simply prove it by launching a rocket that travels roughly 8,000 miles. It doesn't even have to be near our coast. It could be 8,000 miles in any direction where no country or island exists. They don't do it... because they can't... yet.

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Are you kidding me? Launching an ICBM 8000 miles in "any direction" from NK would almost certainly risk triggering a war. Sovereign nations tend to get pissed off when you launch weapons of mass destruction over their heads. Even launching towards the south Pacific would set off alarm bells in places like Guam, Hawaii, etc. Good Lord.

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Threatening is one thing, actually doing it is another. Kim isn't dumb. He's just a big bully that wants to act tough. He knows if he ever attacks US, it's the end of his regime, period!

He can't play big toad glorious leader position no more after that and no other country would interfere.

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Agreed. He's using his nuclear program to leverage some kind of deal, which was probably his father's goal from the start.

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This has got to be the most embarrassing week for T-rump so far in his presidency. Everything he did or said was a failure, topped off with the IG report, Cohen losing his attorneys and on the verge of being arrested or flipping, and Manafort going to jail.

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Still & all...

Trump President.

Not Clinton.

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Still & all...

Trump a national embarrassment.

Not Clinton.

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He mopped the fuckin' floor with her fuckin' ass.

ha, ha.

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T-rump still a national embarrassment.

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Perhaps to you & your ilk, but, to me? He's my hero.

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You’ve sadly set the standards of heroism very low for yourself.

I bet you can do better.

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Who, Hussein Obama? Race baited for 8 years and is now conspiring to overthrow the POTUS. Oh, he's a real gem.

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Where do you get your consistent misinformation from? I can only guess FOX.

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I don't watch FOX, daddy.

Basically CNN & Newsmax. + I keep an eye peeled at all times. I'm old and I've seen enough in my lifetime to recognize the truth.

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