You asked:
NK has nukes? Is that the same fantasy world in which Russia rigged our election?
ROTFLMFAO!
Owning you is so effortless when you ooze ignorance out of every orifice.
The US Council on Foreign Relations citing US intel that NK has between 30-60 nukes.
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/north-koreas-military-capabilities
But its not like its been any secret either when the whole point of the summit was supposed to be to get them to GIVE UP their nukes.
Has that dim bulb above your head started going on yet?
If it ever does, you might want to get up to speed on Russia too. You've got a lot of catching up to do in the real world. Facts matter, that's why you perpetually fail.
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Bubbathegut (18067)
6 years ago
I suppose it would have been better if Trump had done nothing like Obama.
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eYeDEF (5050)
6 years ago
Sometimes inaction is better than action when what you're doing only makes it worse. North Korea now has legitimacy where it was formerly treated as an international pariah exiled from the global community. Kim just received a hero's welcome visiting China for successfully negotiating being brought in out of the cold by Trump. US might still have its sanctions on NK in place but now with the big green light from Trump do you think China feels any pressure to keep sanctions focused on NK?
Nope. None whatsoever.
So what incentive will NK have to give up their nukes now? Zero, nada, zilch.
The legitimacy of normalized relations are supposed to be conferred as a reward AFTER NK agrees to hard targets of surrendering its nukes. This is basic common sense. You don't reward legitimacy and come home empty handed because that is what is called an EPIC fail.
Not a win.
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Bubbathegut (18067)
6 years ago
You bring up a valid argument. Is it better to try and fail then to not try at all?
I would rather Trump or any other President to try and denuke NK and bring peace to the Korean Peninsula than to not try at all.
It took 2 years after the speech by Reagan for East and West Germany to be united. I suppose it would have been better if he had never tried.
It took 2 years after the Emancipation Proclamation for the slaves to be freed by the Union Army in 1865. I suppose it would have been better if Lincoln had never tried.
I suppose it would have been better if the founding fathers have never tried to separate from England and create a new Nation.
Because like you said sometimes inaction is better than action. But sometimes things get worse before they get better.
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eYeDEF (5050)
6 years ago
You appear to be under wrong the impression that neither Obama nor Bush before him tried to negotiate with North Korea when both tried and failed. The negotiations actually were quite public under Bush late in his 2nd term.
The difference is Trump turned the whole thing into a photo op for NK's coming out party of normalized relations by holding a summit while getting nothing in return. Meanwhile, neither Obama or Bush were going to be conceding the PR coup out of the gate by giving NK a summit unless they made hard concessions.
So are you more satisfied with Trump's failed efforts just because he's been more public about it?
It's not just that he's been more public about his failed efforts, he's also put NK on an irreparable path to nuclear legitimacy that will make it difficult for any future president to reverse. So as nice as it would be to say, hey no harm no foul because he made the effort, the permanently squandering of our negotiating position is pretty difficult for me to overlook. But we'll see how it plays out.
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