"How weak is the Republican party (the majority in DC, controlling all branches of government)"
A little lesson in Civics:
https://www.vox.com/2018/1/22/16918686/government-shutdown-why-what
1) Why did the government shut down?
The most basic reason is that the government gets funded by laws that have to go through Congress — and this time, Congress failed to pass a new government funding law before the old one expired. Hence, the shutdown.
The more fundamental reason, though, is that a long-simmering dispute between Democrats and Republicans over immigration has finally boiled over.
Democrats are trying to take a stand and force Republican leaders to make a deal giving deportation protections to hundreds of thousands of unauthorized immigrants who were brought to the US as children. These are the DACA (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival) program recipients, commonly referred to as DREAMers.
The Trump administration decided to end this program, which would leave these young immigrants, many of whom grew up thinking of themselves as Americans, without legal protections. (Though the administration originally said it would sunset the program on March 5, a recent court ruling has led them to partially restart it for now.)
Until they see some progress on a deal protecting DACA recipients, most Democrats said they’d withhold their support from government funding bills. SINCE THESE BILLS NEED A 60-VOTE SUPERMAJORITY, AND THEREFORE AT LEAST NINE DEMOCRATIC VOTES, TO PASS THE SENATE, THIS CAUSED THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN.
(Uppercase added by me.)
So, to answer your dumbass point, it doesn't matter whether the Republicans have the White House and majorities in the Senate and House. If they don't have a supermajority in the Senate, the opposition party can block it.
And the DEMOCRATS have blocked it.
Fucking idiot.
The Democrat Party thrives on morons like you believing their bullshit.
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[deleted]
7 years ago
Yep, the Republicans are weak. Total control of the government and we have a shut down. Unprecedented.
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SnagsWolf (1172)
7 years ago
"Total control of the government and we have a shut down."
You can't even honestly address the facts I pointed out.
And you want to accuse me of not having a conscience?
Now that's fucking hilarious.
Nothing but a dishonest turd.
The Democrat Party thrives on morons like you believing their bullshit.
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[deleted]
7 years ago
Let's make this really easy so even you can understand:
Here is what Citizen T-rump said on "Fox & Friends" back in 2013, when the Republicans shut down the government (thanks to Ted Cruz) and T-rump put all the blame on President Obama's shoulders:
“Problems start from the top, and they have to get solved from the top, and the president’s the leader and he’s got to get everybody in a room and he’s got to lead.”
Repeat his quote a few times to yourself, and let it really sink in. Maybe you should do this while looking at yourself in the mirror? It could help you.
Now, using his own words from roughly four years ago, let's cut to the chase and tell it as it is:
T-rump caused the shutdown because he's the leader, and he's got to lead. Instead he failed because he's a FAILURE.
But no matter what you want to say in denial - remember one thing: this shutdown only helps the Dems (for a number of reasons) in 2018.
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SnagsWolf (1172)
7 years ago
"T-rump caused the shutdown because he's the leader"
You really are fucking stupid. There's NOTHING Trump can do about the Democrats putting illegal immigrants ahead keeping the government open. The ONLY way Trump could've kept the government open was to give the Democrats what they wanted.
In your fucking deranged mind, that would be 'leading.'
According to your dumbass logic, back in 2013 when the Republicans DID shut down the government over Obamacare, Obama wasn't LEADING because he didn't give the Republicans what they wanted.
"this shutdown only helps the Dems (for a number of reasons) in 2018"
Hahahahahahahahaha! Republicans are going to HAMMER Democrats on the FACT that THEY shut the government down over illegal immigration. You're severely retarded if you think that's going to help Democrats.
Government shutdowns in the past have proven to hurt the party responsible in the next election. And only libtards like you are blaming the Republicans. Anyone with a functioning brain can see the Democrats are responsible for this one. Why do you think Schumer put an end to it?
And make no mistake, Schumer was the one to put an end to it. He caved, and his fellow Dems are pissed at him. He was responsible for shutting down the government, and he was responsible for caving and opening it back up.
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[deleted]
7 years ago
“Problems start from the top, and they have to get solved from the top, and the president’s the leader and he’s got to get everybody in a room and he’s got to lead.”
- Donald J Trump discussing the 2013 government shutdown on FOX & FRIENDS, blaming President Obama.
'Nuff said.
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SnagsWolf (1172)
7 years ago
"'Nuff said."
He did get Schumer in a room. Schumer refused to budge.
So you're saying that 'leading' is giving everyone what they want?
Fucking moron.
The Democrat Party thrives on morons like you believing their bullshit.
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[deleted]
7 years ago
"He did get Schumer in a room. Schumer refused to budge.
So you're saying that 'leading' is giving everyone what they want?"
I'm not saying anything - I'm just quoting T-rump from 2013. Can't you follow? If HE said the President has to lead, as all problems start with the President. So now he's sitting in the Oval Office and....failed...according to his own metric.
"Fucking moron."
That he is! (Congratulations - you called that one right.) But I didn't vote for him, so my conscience is clean.
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SnagsWolf (1172)
7 years ago
"If HE said the President has to lead"
He did lead. He got the parties together. It's not his fault Schumer refused to yield, and went ahead and shut down the government for some illegal immigrants. You can lead an idiot to the bargaining table, but you can't stop him from being an idiot.
Fucking moron.
The Democrat Party thrives on morons like you believing their bullshit.
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[deleted]
7 years ago
"He did lead. "
Yes, he did...right into a government shut down.
" He got the parties together. "
Yes, he agreed to their bipartisan agreement. Then he changed his mind when Miller and Cotton told him it was the 'wrong' deal to make. So the bipartisan agreement was off the table and he brought us to a standstill. What a great leader, huh?
"You can lead an idiot to the bargaining table, but you can't stop him from being an idiot. "
That's just what Durbin & Graham did last week with T-rump, but you're right - couldn't stop T-rump from being an idiot.
"Fucking moron."
T-rump certainly is!
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SnagsWolf (1172)
7 years ago
"Yes, he did...right into a government shut down."
No, that was the democrats doing. Schumer admitted it.
Hahahahahaha!
Fucking moron.
The Democrat Party thrives on morons like you believing their bullshit.
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