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I'm confused. People here and on other boards are now calling Ellen/Elliot a he.

Just because someone changes their name does not change your sex. If she was a girl when she went by Ellen she is still a girl now even if she now goes by Elliot. Am I right?

For a good example if Ben Affleck all of a sudden changed his name to Bernice he would still be a man.

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Try and think like a liberal Democrat

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UNLESS AFFLECK IDENTIFIES AS A WOMAN,IN WHICH CASE WE WOULD CALL HIM HER...NOT BECAUSE SCIENCE SAYS ITS TRUE,BUT BECAUSE WE ARE COMPASSIONATE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT OTHERS AND THEIR CHOICES.ESPECIALLY WHEN SAID CHOICES HAVE ZERO BEARING OR EFFECT ON US.

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You can see the obvious problem. Ignoring science in favor of political and social pressure set science back thousands of years ago, and anytime since. There is no point in history in which the suppression of facts and logic have elevated mankind, but in fact has done the opposite. Also, there is empirical evidence that shows a significantly higher amount of depression and suicides that accompany these "transitions" which are irrelevant to the reception of this change. In effect, supporting this is also supporting a statistically known mental issue that leads to a disproportionate number of suicides. None of that matters to the woke crowd, as long as they get to pay themselves on their backs at night.

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Both woke and anti-wokers ignore the science and nitpick little things to make their case, but they avoid getting to the bottom of how everything works. That's what you just did with suicide. The reason the wokers ultimately win is because science is technically on their side, but most of the wokers don't fully know why that is. And anti-wokers want to avoid it all together. All an anti-woker wants to see is trans people bad because suicide. And all a woker wants to see is trans people commit suicide because the world is against them.

Now here comes the truth. Suicides affect trans people more not because they are transitioning, but because they have a gender identity disorder. This skyrockets in the teen years when you throw teenage hormones into the mix. Regardless, a person who thinks they are the opposite gender who does not make the transition is just as likely to commit suicide as one who does make the transition, perhaps even more so, because a person who does not make the transition could be in a social structure that disallows them from living the life they want. That lack of choice is also more prevalent in the teen years where you are forced to live at home and live by someone else's rules.

Since you have a narrative against transitioning, you jump to the conclusion that it is that action that causes the suicide, and are convinced by your own bias to ignore what's at the core.

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If you've rejected everything that is female about you, why not just go with "he."

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Have you read any Freud? Are you familiar with the concept of penis envy?

I think the diagnosis makes sense. Anyone who can't respect Elliot's choices, I have to think they are suffering from some form of penis envy...

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