https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdh-GxwtH5U
Except he was a terrorist. Freedom fighters at least negotiate...or know how to. They know how to give and take.
Terrorists on the other hand are uncompromising fanatics.
You can’t compromise with terrorists (aka white supremacists)
shareMandela was a White supremacist?
shareSouth Africa was a far better place under apartheid, indisputably.
shareif you were white, yeah
shareOr the Zulu king, yeah
https://www.timeslive.co.za/politics/2015-12-07-king-goodwill-zwelithini-praises-apartheid-slams-black-people-who-love-to-use-matches/
Fuggin Uncle Tom!
shareThrough out the post Apartheid period since 1994, a growing number of black and other non White South Africans have said things were better run under Apartheid. They can’t all be uncle Tom’s.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/8711089.stm
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/apartheid-s-africa-better-run-says-poll-1.1107160
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/dec/12/rorycarroll
https://www.france24.com/en/20190426-new-africa-coloured-community-nostalgic-apartheid
https://youtu.be/IJPjKkcWKfw?si=9Bk-7UFuGpxyBKI4
Haha nice try, but the article clearly says that 1/5 black people only had a positive memory of apartheid due to nostalgia goggles and the “trains being on time.” Apartheid was still a brutal, oppressive regime that the vast majority of them still hate. It was only good for the rich and the white folk.
shareYes I provided several sources.
The current situation in SA is a country in shambles.
I was just quoting from the source you provided. SA is mostly in shambles because Mandela let all the rich apartheidists get away with siphoning money from the country
shareYou do know that the deal was that Aprtheud would end but there would be no Afro-Marxist economics afterwards right?
Nobody wanted Zimbabwe 2.0
You do know that Zimbabwe simply printed too much money, what does that have to do with Marxism?
The deal was apartheid would end and then rich white/black folk that supported apartheid get to keep most of the country’s assets. Was there a reason that SA paid the “Zulu king” $6 million a year other than sheer wastefulness?
Zimbabwe’s ruling party is openly Marxist. They seized White farmers’ lands and ran the economy into the ground. So they thought they could print their way out of trouble.
Post Apartheid SA is notoriously corrupt. The ANC is in bed with criminal cartels looting the nations’ infrastructure.
Okay we’re getting off topic here. Mugabe stealing land doesn’t have anything to do with Marxism. It’s just revenge and corruption. The point is he was insane and mad with power, that’s irrelevant to South Africa.
I’m glad you can agree post apartheid SA was corrupt thanks to them being in bed with ex-apartheidists who were pardoned by Mandela and ran off with all the wealth, that’s exactly my point.
Anyway, this is a pointless discussion. None of this changes the fact that apartheid was bad and most of these problems you’re talking about stem from apartheid. Cause and effect,
They didn’t run off with any money. Most of them invest in SA.
The ANC is just incompetent.
Not really, Mandela compromised and didn’t address the oligopoly of a few white owned businesses having dominance over entire economic sectors. Nor did he address the apartheid structure of cities, or redistribute wealth and land effectively.
Yes, the ANC is useless, that’s my point.