It's simply a joke, a funny saying, poking fun at the custom of Tibetans to stick out their tongues when greeting each other, it's not meant to be taken literally, this whole scandal is simply huge misunderstanding.
shareThen why didn't they say that instead of that other preposterous explanation which I guess you didn't hear? Why did the child recoil in horror if it was just a joke? We can all see the child rear back in fear.
Try again.
What "preposterous explanation", his office published an apology and explained that the Dalai Lama often jokes and teases people in playful ways, but he wishes no harm.
shareWhy not instead give your explanation? And why is this the first time it ever came up? The Dalai Lama has greeted many visitors without sticking out his tongue. Why now? He's a big deal in Hollywood. You would have thought he would have been sticking his tongue out at Richard Gere and every other Hollywood-type that came to curry his favor.
shareSometimes over-explaining things could make the matter much worse, attract even more attention, discussion and debates over what is a small unimportant problem, they apologized and that's more than enough, for them the subject is now closed...
shareFor the rest of us, the Dalai Lama bears watching.
shareIf it were a custom the boy would have embraced it, because he would have been used to it, but no, the boy was horrified.
I don't know who paid your people to lie here, and I don't know how you live with yourself.
Because the boy is Indian, he wasn't familiar with the joke.
shareI will say it again. How do you live with yourself?
shareI don't understand the meaning of your question, I just live...
shareWithout any shame clearly.
The Dalai Lama hasn't been to Tibet since 9 years old and spent a lot of time in US and you are saying he does that to foreigners as a Tibet custom? How stupid do you think people are?
It was clearly a joke.
You're just Chinese shill.
Not trying to argue anymore. I am guessing you run out of lies.
shareJust chill bro, it was a joke, get over it, no point in wasting time and mental energy for nothing.
shareIt is quite laughable how desperately you try to downplay this.
shareIt's you, my child who's desperate for clinging so hard to something meaningless instead of simply letting it go...
Once two traveling Zen monks reached a river where they met a young woman. Wary of the current, she asked if they could carry her across. One of the monks hesitated, but the other quickly picked her up onto his shoulders, transported her across the water, and put her down on the other bank. She thanked him and departed.
As the monks continued on their way, one was brooding and preoccupied. Unable to hold his silence, he spoke out: "Brother, our spiritual training teaches us to avoid any contact with women, but you picked that one up on your shoulders and carried her!"
"Brother," the second monk replied, "I set her down on the other side, while you are still carrying her."
Yeah, why don't I let go something as innocent as the molesting of children?
It is really quite shocking when people let go of shame. Is that something taught to you by The Dalai Lama?
But do you jack off while watching yourself in the mirror? I think that is what the other guy was trying ot ask and you are avoiding the question pretending you dint understand, Jesus, men, even I understood and im not even a native english speaker
share"I don't know who paid your people to lie here, and I don't know how you live with yourself."
I ask you the same question. Right back at you.
The Dalai Lama is 87 and there has never been any accusations or scandal before. Now, suddenly, someone catches him at an odd moment (from a western cultural perspective) with a child. A smartphone video and you assume the worst?
You have no idea what happened yet you are judging him without knowing all the facts.
Tibet has a long history of tongue greetings. Many Tibetans greet each other in this manner.
The Dalai Lama is a revered figure.
I don't know who paid your people to lie here, and I don't know how you live with yourself.
I lied about what exactly. Which part of what I was saying is a lie.
Please point it out, I dare you.
"I lied about what exactly. Which part of what I was saying is a lie."
You're the one calling people liars.
The burden of proof is on you.
It was an innocent greeting. Caught by someone with a smartphone. You know zero about Tibetan culture or Buddhism most likely. You just don't like the video and you are rushing to judgment and saying his defenders are paid to lie.
"I don't know who paid your people to lie here, and I don't know how you live with yourself."
That's a direct quote.
An innocent greeting. He apologized because he found out the video upset some people who know nothing about him. He didn't mean any harm to anyone including the child. He apologized because that is also cultural and he felt bad the video upset some know-nothings.
It is now being reported by reliable sources that this is a tempest in a teapot. He did nothing wrong. If you don't believe me run a news search.
This story will simply fade away. No eavesdropper with a cell phone will harm his reputation. His legacy is intact.
So I am a liar, because I called other people liars?
How desperate are you?
I can see now you are just a low life trying to muddle the waters when you run out of arguments.
Do I have to prove you are a low life?
Yeah right.
You are the lowlife. It is one word moron.
Make a news search lowlife. There is no story here. It was a Tibetan greeting.
Have you ever heard of Tibetan Buddhism? Have you ever heard of Tibet?
Enough said.
For people who are interested to know how shameless this guy is, please continue to read: https://moviechat.org/nm0482730/The-Dalai-Lama/6434fc499f5398621d5bf740/Suck-my-tongue-is-just-a-Tibetan-expression?reply=64360be4dca412153a7bc0c3
shareI'm not making any excuses for the Dalai Lama...but on reflection, it did look like he was pulling some kind of 'Zen Riddle' on the kid (in testing his loyalty)...albeit in rather poor taste. Note that when the kid finally (and understandably, reluctantly) advanced, the Lama then withdrew his own tongue (and laughed heartily)
In this day and age though, the Dalai Lama (or at very least his handlers) should know that stuff like this doesn't wash well with 'Joe Public'?
Failing that, the kid should have said something like "Ok, show me the sweets first"
I'm not making any excuses for the Dalai Lama
Regardless of his intention behind the request, it was in bad taste given the current climate.
Just because I didn't jump on the immediate bandwagon of chanting "BURN THE PAEDO" ...I'm now seen as (quote) "excusing" his (admittedly ill-advised) request?
I also stated, it's likely some kind of "test of loyalty" zen riddle/joke that the Lama pulled on the kid and (as I also stated) notice how he retracted his tongue and soon as the kid (reluctantly) went along with it.
Now (unlike you) I'll give *you* the benefit of the doubt and look at it from your point of view...Let's say he *did* have a sinister agenda here...do you really think even at his age (or any long-standing cultral differences/customs) that the Dalai Lama would suck another child's tongue...especially in what looked like a very public and crowded place?
I've already said that, even if it was merely a legit (albeit bad-taste) joke...It's clearly out of place in the current climate...and likely to damage the Dalai Lama's 'brand' (either way) so on the whole, it was an ill-advised lose-lose scenario.
But no worse than the current US President who is on camera (numerous times) kissing, sniffing and asking children to stroke his hairy legs. If you're so outraged, *please* feel free to find either one guilty of Paedophilia and I'll be the first in line to stove their heads in.
You see. You keep stating it is a joke, and of course you know that how?
It really is nice to have a lot of money and power, so a lot of "social media consultants" can be hired to do exactly this.
Ahhh, I get it...You're one of those types that accuse anyone with a difference of opinion of being a paid 'shill' (I wish?)
I am (however) due to go to work at 4pm (for my meagre earnings)...*please* let me know where all my (supposed) social-media payments are, and i'll cash them in and (added to my 'white privilege) will likely retire.
You make it hard to converse when you resort to such desperate shit like that (and so soon too?) so I'll leave it here, I guess?
When you try to cover up for a pedophile, which has been quite clear from what you were doing. One has to wonder why? For what motive? What kind of person would do such a thing?
No matter what the reason is, money is the least offensive one. You should be glad I only implied money.
"When you try to cover up for a pedophile..."
What?!
Who is a pedophile?
You don't know what you are talking about.
Tibet has a long history of tongue greetings. Many Tibetans greet each other in this manner.
Yet that is what a Tibetan Buddhist saying:
I was asked to take Bodhisattva vows by H.H. in 1996. The behavior in this video is sickening and repulsive. I've never heard of nor seen H.H. act like this. In the apology put forth by H.H.'s team, they say everyone knows Dalai Lama likes to joke around. Yes. He does. We do know that; it's part of his charm and loving kindness. However, this is not joking around. This is disgraceful and unacceptable. Period.
"From the comment section..."
What an ignoramus. The comment section of YouTube?! Like they have any credibility? It is worth noting that crap video was posted by someone with 19 subscribers. The narrator is speaking with a slightly humorous troll voice. The video and especially the comments (which could come from anyone, anywhere) are of no consequence.
"When you kiss a kid on the mouth you are a pedophile."
100% incorrect. You don't know what you are talking about. You know nothing about what happened. Or you have an agenda and you want to harm the Dalai Lama. If that is the case you failed.
Once again- run a news search. This is a big nothing. The story is fading away fast and his legacy is intact.
The lack of mainstream media coverage is an appalling fact itself. It shows the sort of power The Dalia Lama has.
After reading what you said, I am also kind of amazed what people are capable of when they have no shame.
How can I argue with someone who has no shame?
While sticking your tongue out is a known manner of greeting in Tibet, how do you know that "suck my tongue" is a Tibetan expression? Do you know any Tibetans and have you spent time in the area?
shareYes, I've talked with some Tibetans online, who explained it, and are very confused why this whole thing was blown out of proportion by the media, to them it's obvious just some silly banter and harmless jokes, that simply got lost in translation.
share"Tibetans online, who explained it"
Got a link where it's explained that "suck my tongue" is a Tibetan expression?🙂
It was explained on various online forums, social media and in youtube comments, but they are getting deleted or downvoted very fast, people don't want to hear any explanations, they just want blood now.
https://www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/12ggufj/removed_by_reddit/
Sorry, but I can't do anything with a deleted comment and nothing in the comments suggests that "suck my tongue" is a Tibetan expression. I also can't find anything on the internet that supports this theory. Everything points to him making an inappropriate remark (even if it was a joke) to a child. He also seemed to ignore the obvious signs that the child was feeling uncomfortable.
I'm sure the Dalai Lama can do no wrong in the eyes of many Tibetans and they prefer to dismiss it as innocent teasing, but the guy is an autocratic leader who is worshipped as a deity. I think it's a-okay to hold him to a higher standard rather than a lower.
Vice article explaining it:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/jg5854/tibetans-explain-what-suck-my-tongue-means-dalai-lama-viral-video
I think that shows the influence of The Dalai Lama among elites, mainstream media not only under-report the incident, and when they do report they downplay it just like OP, who we all know is a shameless stooge.
That is what influential religious leaders can do, especially the one elites needed for their anti-China agenda, which I suspect is one of the reasons why the elites are protecting him.
Some of the notable owners of Vice news also give clues of what they are about, including Soros (yes, that Soros), TPG capital, Murdoch family (James Murdoch) and Disney.
Soros and TPG capital together own controlling stake, so I think it is kind of the voice of wall street.
1. Lol, Vice
2. "Eat my tongue" is not the same as "suck my tongue". It doesn't even come down to the same thing. Not sure how the Dalai Lama could even get this wrong, since "eat" is clearly the easier word for a foreigner.
3. Is there any evidence from before the incident that this is an expression in Tibet? If it is, why didn't that info come out immediately and not just yesterday? If you spoke to Tibetans, why didn't YOU mention this? Instead everybody tried to explain it away by saying that sticking your tongue out is just a way of greeting.
4. Even the article mentions that the supposed expression is said in a completely different context between a child and an adult who share a familiair relationship. Like I said, even if it was just a joke, it was inappropriate, especially since the boy was obviously feeling uncomfortable.
"Eat my tongue" is not the same as "suck my tongue". It doesn't even come down to the same thing. Not sure how the Dalai Lama could even get this wrong, since "eat" is clearly the easier word for a foreigner."
He just misspoke, since it's not his first language, he wanted to say "eat" not "suck", an honest mistake, it's explained there.
"Is there any evidence from before the incident that this is an expression in Tibet? If it is, why didn't that info come out immediately and not just yesterday? If you spoke to Tibetans, why didn't YOU mention this? Instead everybody tried to explain it away by saying that sticking your tongue out is just a way of greeting."
I posted the explanation four days ago.
" Even the article mentions that the supposed expression is said in a completely different context between a child and an adult who share a familiair relationship. Like I said, even if it was just a joke, it was inappropriate, especially since the boy was obviously feeling uncomfortable."
The Dalai Lama often acts like a friendly grandpa to the kids he meets, he means no harm.
He just misspoke, since it's not his first language, he wanted to say "eat" not "suck", an honest mistake, it's explained there.
I posted the explanation four days ago.
The Dalai Lama often acts like a friendly grandpa to the kids he meets, he means no harm.
Uhm, no. Like I said, it's mindboggling how he even got this wrong, since "eat" is clearly the easier word for a foreigner. English isn't my first language either and I would never mix the two up. And in the context of the supposed expression "eating" means to take away the tongue so the owner doesn't have it anymore. "Suck" doesn't even come close to that.
Even when you suck candy (which is definitely not ALL candy), you eat it, so hell no, the confusion is not easily made. "Eat" would be the to-go word for a foreigner. The idea of the supposed expression is not to suck the tongue like a lollipop.
shareYes, it's like when an old man plays the game "stick your hand in my pocket and search for the roll of quarters" with a child. It's just a game. If you read too much into it, you'd be mischaracterizing his pure and innocent intent.
Or he has dementia and is saying things in public he would have only said in private before.
I don't know much about the DL or Tibetan culture but according to most of the laws I've seen in various nations, kissing someone that's underage is not illegal. In my country (USA) a man or woman can kiss a boy or girl and not go to jail for it. The US government doesn't view kissing as a sex act. Thus, it's not illegal to simply kiss someone and that includes French kissing with the tounge.
Personally, I'm a little skeptical of what the DL did here. Tounge sucking is just kinda weird. I wouldnt care that much if he had gently kissed the child but tounge sucking is a little strange. Oh well, apparently nothing actually happened, so whatever....
Remember he spent a lot of time in US and he knew very well his behaviour was not acceptable.
shareDoes he? I would imagine Llamas live in a fantasy world. I doubt they keep up with various social customs of other nations, even if living there.
In the US and perhaps other nation's too, tounge sucking a child would be frowned upon. But in Tibet, who knows....
But if you're a lib and a Biden supporter, you cannot throw a fit over this!! We have Biden on video actually touching children inappropriately. So, if you are one of the above or both, spare me your faux outrage.
Remember a lot of celebrities and wealthy people in US were his students. Richard Gere was one of them.
Tibetan Buddhism is the kind of Buddhism for the rich, it is about reincarnation with memory intact, it is sort of immortality. The Dalai Lama is supposed to have lived 14 life times.
He can't connect with rich people if he does not know how to behave in US.
Tibetan culture is very similar to those of India, and that Indian boy was horrified.
""He can't connect with rich people if he does not know how to behave in US.""
LOL!! Funny quote, I'll have to remember this one.
I still say these high up figures in various religions live in fantasy land. From the time their little kids until they day they die, they have servants around them all the time kissing their ass. No one can possibly have a realistic view of the world that lives like this.
I have nothing against this man personally, but I just don't think someone in his situation would have vast knowledge of the social structures from around the world.
But I went ahead and found this incident on youtube. It's looks like harmless fun for the most part...
Here it is... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDWWMABmZzU
The kid didn't look all that shocked by it. He laughed about it...
The reason you think the kid suddenly backing away when being kissed on the mouth is why?
I think the kid has to smile because of the laughter and applause in the background.
If he raped that kid right there in public and everyone around is applauding I think the kid would probably be thinking it is OK and smile too. I think that is how a lot of young women in cults were raped.
I said that before and I will say it again:"I never know so many people are so casual about the molesting of kids."
I think he might have been pulling away but hard to tell. He laughed at the whole situation. I do think this was not a very good attempt at humor but I don't think a crime took place either.
To call this molesting is a bit silly. Although, like I said earlier, if you're a Biden supporter, no way you can be taken seriously in this discussion.
At the end of day, the DL should have taken some cautions here as to not offend anyone but as the old saying goes, 'no one is perfect'.
It is kind of shocking when people use 'no one is perfect' as a defence for the molesting of a kid.
That really is a new one.
I can see it now, you are here with the same mission as OP, to downplay this.
I said before and I have to say it again:"It really is nice to have a lot of money and power, so a lot of 'social media consultants' can be hired to do exactly this."
LMAO!! you think people are getting paid to post here?? haha...
That's funny.
Like I said, it was not in good taste but nothing anymore outrageous than what we've seen Joe Biden actually do. Spare me the outrage, I'm not buying it.
Joe Biden is equally disgusting, but The Dalai Lama doing it is OK?
You should read the comment section of the video you posted, quite a few were Tibetan Buddhists saying something like following:
I was asked to take Bodhisattva vows by H.H. in 1996. The behavior in this video is sickening and repulsive. I've never heard of nor seen H.H. act like this. In the apology put forth by H.H.'s team, they say everyone knows Dalai Lama likes to joke around. Yes. He does. We do know that; it's part of his charm and loving kindness. However, this is not joking around. This is disgraceful and unacceptable. Period.
I'm Buddhist. I was distressed watching this. I have no answers or speculations.share
I know, some people didn't like it. Others are like... pffft.. whatever.
opinions vary I suppose.
Sexual misconduct in Buddhism is very strictly forbidden, his faith would immediately expel him if they took his actions seriously.
shareAbsolutely noir.
Some know-nothing with a smartphone posts a video. No context or explanation.
What- the Dalai Lama suddenly decides to "Break Bad" at 87?
Nonsense. A non story. Reliable news sources are reporting this was nothing.