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Carried out the Klan's dreams in a way they couldn't have imagined.


It's a well known fact that Jones' father was a Klansmen. To me, it seemed as if Jim Jones, no matter how hard he passed himself as a man of God, was his father's son and secretly relished the idea of rounding up a bunch of deluded black people into becoming part of his cult so that he could kill them all later in a mass suicide.

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Overall a valid point. A very tragic case of how brainwashed black people who wanted to escape the oppression of systematic white supremacy, getting hoodwinked into a cult run by what they though was a "benevolent" and accepting white man, only in the end to fall victim to a single twisted, evil act of mass murder (black men, women & children) the likes of which the most ardent white supremacist terrorist groups could only dream of pulling off. And it was indeed murder, not suicide, despite that common misconception. Those people were largely forced at gunpoint to take that poison and feed it to their children. Somehow that fact & that his "congregation" followers were largely black gets downplayed.

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Yeah, the media loves downplaying certain aspects of this tragedy. For example, there was a gay guy who abandoned his biracial son to escape Jonestown. He gets painted as some kind of sympathetic victim, but his abandonment never sat well with me. It just seems as if he said, "Fuck it. I had my experiment screwing a black chick and creating a half-black child. I wanna live my life free and clear as a gay man back in the states." I just doesn't make sense to me that he'd abandon his son based on the logic that he'd be "safer," when the whole point of fleeing was to escape what he felt was certain danger.

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Definitely not sympathetic. A selfish coward who as you said simply wanted to wash his hands of his little "experiment" which included his innocent child he chose to abandon in a dangerous situation, leading directly to his death.

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"escape the oppression of systematic white supremacy"

Right on, Brother! The only way for blacks to escape slavery in 1978 was take the train to Canada or follow some white man to the South American jungle. Good thing Obama abolished slavery!

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Yeah, the media loves downplaying certain aspects of this tragedy


It's always only a matter of time before the usual white supremacist suspects pop in to give their two cents of trolling.

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I think your theory is not correct. Jones was crazy and evil, but the whole basis of his "church" was that it's against racism. Yes it was racist in its own way, as only whites held power in it, but not as related to the Klan. Even though the effect was of course much worse than anything the Klan ever did. But Jones was just an egomaniac atheist, and Communist who coerced everyone, by no means blacks only, to go to the "paradise" of Jonestown. Once they arrived there they found out it was a concentration camp, and for most too late to leave, except for a few smart escapees. But everyone in Peoples' Temple didn't join willingly; most if not all of the kids there were there because of their parents. And the adults were all threatened if they left. Of course a few realized how dumb they were to join and left in spite of the threats. One family who left was killed 16 months AFTER the massacre back in Berkeley in a so-called unsolved case. Obviously some followers survived to carry out Jones last wishes. But calling Jones a "man of God" is laughable. He was an atheist and Communist from the very beginning and only formed the church to get power. Then after pretending to be Christian with fake healings he told everyone the bible is evil and he is their God.

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Exactly, didn't he even adopt people of different colors?

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I think your theory is not correct. Jones was crazy and evil, but the whole basis of his "church" was that it's against racism. Yes it was racist in it's own way, as only white held power in it, but not as related to the Klan.


Clearly it wasn't against racism as much as it was "against racism". Often the most effective evil/enemy is that which comes in the guise of benevolence, altruism and friendship. Black people have a long history of being exploited & victimized in this way.

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The original point though, was that Jones was a Klansman. If Jones was racist, he certainly wasn´t overt about it like the KKK are and the OP´s claims are just pure speculation.

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Your theory has a gargantuan HOLE in it.

Lots of HONKEY MFers died that day too.

Try again.

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