Perpetual victim


He is like the John Hurt of comedy he often has horrible things happen to him.

He usually in everything he is in either gets

tortured
beaten
humiliated
robbed
forced to live a horrible miserable pathetic wretched excuse for a life
dies horribly

Mycroft Holmes is the only role off the top of my head I can think of where something horrible hasn't happened to him in any way.

I am not saying he is limited and can only play the victim. He can play so many different types of roles but it seems no matter what part he is, hero, villain, comic relief, he still either dies or gets something horrible happening to him. He is an unlucky guy LOL

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I'm bothering my head about the question which parts that Mark Gatiss has played you're describing there...
Would you be so kind to enlighten me, please? It seems that each adjective in your list represents one particular film.
I've already seen some of his films and what I can relate to is (SPOILER?!):

"beaten" - "The Spanish Flu - The Forgotten Fallen" (at least he's got a black eye there) / "Midsomer Murders - The Sword of Guillaume" / "LoG - Live at Drury Lane" (haven't seen the full series yet)

"dies horribly" - "Midsomer Murders - The Sword of Guillaume"

"forced to live a horrible miserable pathetic wretched excuse for a life" - hmm, maybe also "Midsomer Murders - The Sword of Guillaume"...

"robbed" - "Inspector Gently - The Lost Child" (but only if child stealing counts as getting robbed...)

Well, I'm only trying a shot in the dark here and for the rest I've got no idea at all... Now you really got me curious!

I agree, he often plays damaged characters and he does it brilliantly IMHO and I love to watch him doing it. So, I'd like very much to know what you meant and perhaps get some recommendations by that ;-)

Thanks!

PS: Sorry for my poor English, I'm not a native speaker...

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Thanks for asking I didn't think anyone would respond. I actually didn't know about those ones thanks that's more ammunition for my point lol.

Okay here are the roles of his I know where horrible stuff happens to him

In the League of Gentleman Gatiss was often the victim. Usually Pemberton and Shearsmith were the badguys while Gatiss would be the person they pick on. It wasn't always that but it did tend to follow that formula a lot.

He is killed five times in the local shop sketches

First one he is the teenager whom Tubbs and Edward torture and burn.
He then shows up as the police man who is investigating his previous characters murder and is promptly burned by Tubbs and Edward.
He is one of the road men they torture and shoot in the back with a crossbow.
He is an artist in the second series they throw into a room with their mutant son who eats him alive.
He also plays their mutant son who is burned alive by the villagers in series 2.

He also plays a character in the christmas special who is killed by Voodoo they kill him by slitting his throat.

He also plays a character who is kept as a scarecrow by Steve Pemberton and tortured every day as punishment for sleeping with Pemberton's wife.

He is also killed twice in the League of Gentleman film.

As for characters who are humiliated and live pathetic excuses for lives and beaten well

There is Mickey the slow witted monkey man who is mistreated by all around him.
Mr Chinnery the unluckiest vet in the world who loves animals but kills every single one he treats because his ancestor was cursed.
Les Mcqueen the failed rockstar who is later conned out of his life savings by his friends and left humiliated ad is also killed in the live show.
He also plays a terminally ill man who is told of his condition in the worst way possible in another.

Other roles where bad stuff happens to Gatiss in other things I am aware of include.

Psychoville, he is an actor throttled to death by Steve Pemberton.

Doctor who, in one he is professor Lazarus who is killed by his own experiments in another he is this guy called Gralnock I think? who is eaten alive by skulls.

Finally in Being Human he is blown apart by the ghost Annie.

If there are any more anyone can think of please tell me LOL.

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Wow, fantastic, thank you very much for your detailed answer!!!!

Hmm, okay, I definitely have to watch more "LoG" soon... ;-))))
I guess, he must have had a great time filming these, thinking about his fondness of dark themes.

Probably he's rather fitting as a victim because his usual appearance seems open, innocent and friendly (well not as Mycroft of course), even vulnerable sometimes (well, that's true for Mycroft, I think) and so we can empathise with him. So much for my kitchen sink psychology ;-)
But then again, he can be very dark and menacing as a bad guy. Or withdrawn and aloof as Mycroft. And as I said before I find him always absolutely convincing playing hurt or damaged characters (okay, Mycroft again but not only...), e.g. "The Worst Journey in the World", in which he suffers a lot but is also very strong. His portrayal of Apsley Cherry-Garrard touched me very deeply and even brought me to tears.
What I tried to say is that I think, he really is a most versatile actor in the end.

You're right, his parts also got killed in "Being Human" and of course "Doctor Who". How could I've forgotten those...

In addition, there's the short film "The Cicerones" in which he stumbles into a creepy church and is frightened by horrid residents (can't explain better, it's very open to interpretation). And in "Marple - Murder at the Vicarage" someone at least tries to kill him.

Besides, at the moment he gets beheaded every night in his current play "55 Days" in Hampstead Theatre, that counts as "dying horribly", doesn't it?! ;-)



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He was fab in "The Worst Journey in the World." The BBC really needs to release that on DVD.

As for "dying horribly," anyone seen "Crimson Petal and the White"?

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I haven't seen it what happened to him in that?

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Check out the BBC series "Nighty Night." I'll not give any spoilers, but what happens to him is hilariously horrible.

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