"So this is how liberty dies...with thunderous applause."
Goodbye America, it was nice while it lasted.
shareGoodbye America, it was nice while it lasted.
shareSay hello to our new Emperor.
It was a good 4 years.
who will be his apprentice?
"Two there should be. No more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it."
―Darth Bane
I'm confused. I'm not sure how this applies to Biden. That's literally what Trump and his followers want for him, so why are you saying it about Biden? Makes no sense.
shareHaven't you figured this tactic out yet? It's so elementary school I guess a lot of people overthink it. You accuse someone of doing what you're about to do, then when they call you on it they look petty. I'm not a thief - you're a thief! Or whatever.
shareExactly. Like when they call Trump a tyrannical dictator but it's the left governors forcing people out of their jobs, homes, fining and jailing them for mask 'non compliance' , shaming innocent people for not 'following orders' and so on...
shareGeorge Lucas is a democrat.
The prequels were about how a democracy slowly becomes a tyranny like Nazi Germany. Trump was actually Palpatine since Trump befriended dictators like Putin and Un, attacked the free press and freedom of speech, created a Secret Police to kidnap and stop peaceful protestors, demanded full loyalty to him instead of the republic. Remember Obi-wan's words to Anakin, "my loyalty is to the Republic, not to Palpatine".
This is important. Like a Sith Lord, Trump used fear, hatred and anger to grow and maintain support of his base. These are three negative emotions of the darkside.
Biden is about compassion and unity. Two strong jedi traits.
Biden is Luke Skywalker bringing a new hope. As a matter of fact, Mark Hamill supported Biden.
Hahahaha
shareBiden and all the Dems pumps corona to take away freedom from the people. Thats fascism. Not doing some angry tweet.
shareTrump golfed while hundreds of thousands of Americans died on his watch. Then, he increased the death toll by holding crowded events. Like Palpatine, Trump is a sociopath!
Freedom to kill more Americans is murder - not freedom.
Anger is your MO.
Jedi also value knowledge. Trump , like a true Sith, hates knowledge so he attacks scientists, doctors, intelligence community and the freedom of the press which informs us and is the 4th pillar of a democracy.
"Trump golfed while hundreds of thousands of Americans died on his watch"
he has the weekends off you know.
and what could he have done? look at the mess in europe, how could he have done better than them.
i am european so your lib-democrat bullshit lies don't work on me
I was telling my parents this morning that they could look forward to lockdowns, which would cause businesses to fold, unemployment, and God knows what else. But people made their choice. I live in Britain and got out of the US under the Bush administration. I knew things were bad with America then.
shareEngland is having a month-long lockdown!!!
shareYou're right, we are. One after the other. And that is probably what Biden will bring upon the US.
shareIt's only temporary!
My state shutdown and the covid rate dropped drastically saving thousands of lives. Then, we slowly opened up and the rate has remained low since most people continue to wear mask and social distance.
The reality is that people like me won't go to restarants, theaters, public transportation, travel, etc. unless it's safe. The faster EVERYONE cooperates, the faster that happens. Remain digilent.
BTW, I'm looking forward to President Biden working with our allies to defeat covid internationally.
Well, just keep telling yourself that. I hope you're right.
sharekeelai is just another disillusioned fool... who believes what the media tells her.
blaming trump for a virus from china... SMH
He/she (both) also mentioned looking forward to Biden "working with our allies to defeat covid internationally". I somehow suspect that Biden may not have very many allies, except maybe Europe or Canada.
shareexactly..... Joe will not be liked in the middle east, russia, north korea etc.......
Trump was perhaps not loved there either, but he was respected. They respect a strong leader, and only have contempt for a weak one, like Obama, or Hillary, if she had been elected.
And now with Biden. They might try to test him, and let's hope sloppy Joe doesn't let his advisers talk him into another war for America
Well said, and I also imagine one of the first things Biden will do once he is in office is declare a national lockdown. We woke up here in Britain and Europe. Lockdowns do NOT work. They just delay the lockdown.
shareThings like mask wearing are no different from putting on fire gear to enter a burning building, scuba equipment to go diving, or a spacesuit to walk on the moon. You want to exercise your liberty in the ocean by ripping off your mask and taking a deep breath of salt water? Go right ahead. 🤪
When there's a pathogen spreading through the air the ways of controlling it (until you get medicines and vaccines) are limited. Put a covering over your face. Stay away from people - who may be sick and pass it to you. Going to bars, having big birthday parties, even going to the grocery store without a mask, risks catching the disease or spreading it to others. The end result of all those idiots screaming about their personal liberty is there to be seen every day on the evening news, in case and death counts.
Lockdowns aren't necessary if infection rates are not allowed to spiral out of control. Look at South Korea. Nowhere near as many whiny undisciplined little bitches there. People follow the rules religiously, so without a single lockdown they've managed to lead much more normal lives, suffer far less economic damage, and have fewer than 500 deaths to date in a nation of 52 million.
Smallpox vaccinations were made mandatory in the early 20th century here in the US. As a result of that, we were able to eradicate the illness here in our country decades before a global WHO program managed to achieve that worldwide. If too many citizens back then were like the anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers of today, we'd still be dying of smallpox every year. People would be losing children to this awful virus in 2020.
I can't speak for anyone else on the board, but I personally have lost all patience with patronizing stupid people. They don't like being looked down on. And yet they do and say things that make it impossible to think of them as anything but mind-numbingly moronic. Throughout history, including in democracies, pandemic control measures being made mandatory and enforced is the norm. As it should be. Your actions don't just have consequences for yourself, but for everyone you come in contact with. If external force is actually required to make you care about that ... I don't think very highly of you, and no one else should either.
Exactly Keelai. It's comical to compare a potential Biden win to the circumstances of democracy dying in ROTS. The best villains think their cause is just.
share"Trump befriended dictators like Putin and Un"
It's Kim, actually. In Korea, surname comes first.
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No, Palpatine is Hitler. The Evil Empire is Nazi Germany. Stormtroopers were specialist soldiers in the German army. Imperial uniforms are based on Nazi uniforms. Originally, stormtroopers and all the officers were white human males to reflect the bigotry within Nazi Germany. It was made clear that nonhumans, women and nonwhites were considered inferior, therefore not welcome in the ranks of the Imperial army nor government leadership.
George Lucas studied political history in college and was fascinated by how democracies become dictatorships. He literally made me interested in the subject, too.
I recommend an award-winning book on the subject titled:
How Democracies Die
by Steven Levitsky (Author), Daniel Ziblatt
You are forgetting that the Republic eventually became the Empire. This what we are going back to again, Trump liberated us from Tyranny and now we are back in the same situation.
The Prequels showed us Obama taking power and becoming the Empire.
The OT showed us Trump destroying the Empire.
The Disney Trilogy will be a story about how a strong Republican woman saves us again from the Empire again.
Padme said it best. "You’re going down a path I can’t follow."
https://youtu.be/gxHn0HLRq2Q
You're wrong. Democrats and Republicans both represent "liberal democracy" aka: democracy. That means elections, freedom of the press, speech, expression, etc., nonpartisan goverment institutions, separation of powers and rule of law.
"Illiberal democracy" is the new dictatorship and is represented by countries like Russia, Venezuela, and Turkey where they only pretend to be democracies. There are no honest elections, no freedom of the press, political opponents are falsely accused and arrested, populist leader who profits, no checks and balances on his power, government institutions are headed by his lackeys, all judges answer to him, etc.
Trumpism is not democracy, nor is it conservatism nor republican. It's illiberal democracy. Notice how Trump attacked the free press, demanded loyalty from institution heads, packed the courts, attacked demonstrators with the secret police, falsely accuses and wants to arrest his political opponents, pay to play profits, etc.
Trump is a demogogue who refuses to leave even though the majority have voted him out. He wants a mob and his appointed judges to keep him in power which is not democracy - it's a coup and leads to a dictatorship. There needs to be a peaceful transfer of power in a democracy.
Please read the award-winning book, How Democracies Die.
This is your new America, or Chinamerica. Big business and big donors wins. You just voted for a 78 yr old grandpa with dementia.
shareI'm going to leave you with your fear, hate and anger since that's all you have.
shareI am going to leave you to with all you fear, hate, and contempt for America and Trump. You have been extremely arrogant and hateful the past 4 years. Guess its my turn to be like you. Hope you are ready to defend your 78 yr old grandpa with dementia for 4 years.
share"Trump liberated us from Tyranny"
That didn't age well.
George Lucas's (and my) idea of being a democrat is far, far away from what a modern democrat is.
There are different types of democrats: liberal, moderate, progressive, apolitical, etc.
The right-wing media has promoted the stereotype that all democrats are progressive when in reality they are a small, but vocal group of about 10% of the democratic party.
Another stereotype is that all democrats hate guns, pro-abortion and are not religious. Reality is a large number are moderate, live in swing states and love to hunt, against abortion and very religious.
There's a danger in assuming everyone is the same. There are different types of Republicans, conservatives, and Trump supporters too. Notice how I differentiate the three groups which are not neccesarily all the same thing.
https://www.post-gazette.com/news/crime-courts/2020/11/12/trump-campaign-election-2020-presidential-pennsylvania-lawsuit-ballots-late-identification/stories/202011120132
Trump campaign wins case on Pa. voter ID deadline
Oops voter fraud?
"Joe Biden won the state, and subsequently the election, on Saturday and currently leads President Trump by more than 54,000 votes."
Oops! Sore losers!
Thank you
shareI must say I am quite appaled that the majority of American people would vote for a candidate and party who cheered and stood by while dangerous thugs looted, rioted and vandalised and all over a dead criminal, and a violent one at that. I don't know what makes me the sickest, that, or, the majority voting for a paedophile.
shareIt's the fact that you're too ignorant to understand that the protests are about having the right to take someone's life based on your own personal judgement, and protesters are not looters or rioters.
Maybe someday, someone other than God will judge your life on whether or not you're worthy to live.
Antifa, BLM, and their brainless followers have been rioting, looting, burning, vandalizing, and assaulting all over the U.S. for several months while leftist mayors and governors do nothing and leftists like yourself applaud. Maybe someday you and your ignorant ilk will miraculously gain the intelligence necessary to understand this, but I wouldn't bet on it.
shareOh, I would. I definitely would, only when it's too late. You see, I have a suspicion that Tabby is one of those cool protestors, you know, the ones that protest but have no clue as to what they are protesting about, only for the sake of wokeness. But that's okay. When they are held at gunpoint, or their loved ones are harassed by these other thugs we see rioting and vandalising, St Tabby will probably realise that no one will help. Police officers will be turned into nothing but social workers to counsel those accused of 'wrong thinking' as the last stop before an actual gulag.
shareOops! Did you mean to post this 4 years ago?
shareNope, Trump was against the status quo and the establishment. Sleepy Joe has been in Politics for over 47 years, we are going back right where we started.
shareTrump IS the status quo and establishment. He helped rich people especially himself.
shareTrump wasn't a politician until 2017, Joe has been in politics since the early 70's. Big difference there. Obama passed the biggest tax relief package ever. Obama is so rich now that he bought a mansion on Marthas Vineyard with all the other rich people.
shareStill talking about Obama?
"Obama passed the biggest tax relief package ever."
Obama did NOT lower taxes for the rich. Only economic recovery money used to get America out of a deep recession which he inherited from Bush.
Starting this year, working-class taxes begin to raise while the rich taxes remain low because of Trump. Biden will save you by reversing that.
You hate capitalism, Bubba? Obamas have several best selling books, a media deal and are paid for making speeches.
"Trump wasn't a politician until 2017"
Not a politician, but extremely political. Laws, taxes, regulations are changed by rich people smoozing and bribing politicians. Hillary was invited to Trump's third wedding. All rich people are political. They pay politicians billions each year.
Big businesses and real estate are very status quo and pro-establishment. Except for Ben & Jerry's.
Yep, he wants to shut down the entire country for 100 days. It makes me so MAD!!!!!
sharePresident-elect Biden will accomplish as much in 100 days by working in a bi-partisan fashion as Trump, with his dictator style, did in four years. Plus, Biden won’t cost taxpayers anywhere near as much as golfer Trump and his grifter family. Thank goodness!!
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