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Dems chose him out of anyone YOUNGER...

posted 4 years ago by Rorikon (17855)
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https://youtu.be/ixjYjlktqOw

Can't even wrap my head around this. Chose the oldest dude of the lot to run instead of letting him retire. Ignored all the more fresher candidates and now we're talking of the 25th amendment and Kamala taking over. It's like they set this all up to nominate a person that didn't even make it to the final 5 but because of her color, she was prioritized. I have a feeling once he's in, the progressive left are gonna hound, push, and sway his vulnerable mind to do more progressive things unless his wife or team stops them. The list of his gaffes are getting longer and longer.

[–] exithereplease (3553) 4 years ago

But that was a terrible field.

[–] TimMC (9143) 4 years ago

Most people in the USA who are registered DEMs, including me, are NOT socialists or communists and they hate HATE the idea of America becoming a socialist or communist nation. The DNC is overflowing with commies now. Biden, for all of his faults and crimes, is no Communist(I think).

He won by process of elimination.

In other words if the DEM candidates were boats, all of the boats sunk but Biden's but his is boat full of holes. LOL. IT must be a Styrofoam boat.

[–] RogueDemonHunter (2684) 4 years ago

He's a throwaway nomination. Same with Harris. The democrats figure they're unlikely to win so don't want to waste a viable candidate. They'll put all their effort into putting forward someone in 2024.

I still can't get my head around the fact that in a country of 331M people, the Republicans put forward Trump and the Dems, Biden...

[–] exithereplease (3553) 4 years ago

I still can't get my head around the fact that in a country of 331M people, the Republicans put forward Trump and the Dems, Biden...

Neither can I...

[–] JohnnyDoe (1884) 4 years ago

What's wrong with Trump?

[–] exithereplease (3553) 4 years ago

Lots....but there's tons of pockets of rural counties that could swing this election for him again.

I still think...if he wins all the states he won in 2016 (-PA, -Mi) Wisconsin and 2nd district of Maine gets him to 270.

Trump is going to win TX and Kansas. I have no idea how these became battleground states.

That's just silly.

AZ is 4 years away from going purple to blue...so that goes to Trump.

...NM is def Biden. NV is def Biden (why is this a battleground state)?

...

GA...flip a coin but it probably goes for the Elephant again for the last time.

Ohio...Trump

Fl...60/40 Biden

All this would be a lot more interesting a year ago.

[–] Rorikon (17855) 4 years ago

I find it amusing the purple to blue states. These states are usually previously run by Republicans until those on the left started moving in due to all the high taxes and other liberal policies set back home they didn't agree to. They settle down in a more free-er or rather less restrictive state and then it starts turning from red to purple then later on blue. They then vote in the same crap policies that got their state in the craps in the first place and the cycle repeats. I'm talking about states that were once heavily red once before.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/10/23/how-arizona-texas-and-other-solidly-red-states-could-soon-turn-purple/

[–] exithereplease (3553) 4 years ago

It is interesting. You are correct. It is a little mind boggling.

As the article explains, it's also getting a lot less white.

On the flip, take a state like Vermont. One of the whitest states in the country...Used to always go Republican (they even voted against FDR 4 times).

Then in 1992 everything flipped like a switch. That was an important election for the Democratic party...other New England states like Maine, New Hampshire ALL suddenly flipped...

I think poor old honest Abe could walk out off his coffin and run in 2024...and I bet he'd still lose Vermont.

[–] GreenGoblinsOck8 (7699) 4 years ago

I still can't get my head around the fact that in a country of 331M people, the Republicans put forward Trump and the Dems, Biden...

Can the republicans run someone besides Trump? It's always been that if the President chooses to run again they are the only candidate of that party. While the opposing party gets several different people in the primaries. I'm not sure it is even allowed for whatever party to tell the President he can't run again.

[–] RogueDemonHunter (2684) 4 years ago

As in he was their top choice in 2016.

[–] GreenGoblinsOck8 (7699) 4 years ago

Was he, though? Frankly I voted for Ben Carsen in the 2016 primaries. Sure a lot of people voted for Trump but I do not remember them pushing him. Heck, a lot of Republicans were upset that he won!

[–] RogueDemonHunter (2684) 4 years ago

I suppose top choice as in most viable choice according to the voting public. The fact that Trump got to the stage where he would have a podium in the preliminaries is pretty wild. Rather than a raft of legitimate politicians.

I don't know the ins and outs of changing a president within a party for their second term but isn't there something about a party making a presidential nominee and then them accepting?

[–] GreenGoblinsOck8 (7699) 4 years ago

I don't know. That sort of thing hasn't happened in my lifetime.

[–] exithereplease (3553) 4 years ago

It's always been that if the President chooses to run again they are the only candidate of that party.

That's actually not true, Ronald Reagan did run against the sitting President Ford and came pretty close to stealing the nomination from him in 1976.

Also, Pat Buchanan ran against George Bush in 1992.

And former Republican President Teddy Roosevelt ran against sitting Republican President William Taft in 1912.

Ted Kennedy opposed Jimmy Carter in 1980.

[–] GreenGoblinsOck8 (7699) 4 years ago

I wasn't aware of those. But that last one with Bush and Buchanon happened when I was 6 years old. So it hasn't happened at a point where I could remember it. From Clinton onward, it didn't happen.

[–] exithereplease (3553) 4 years ago

That fine.

It's an interesting question really.

It's rare, but it does happen.

History is always interesting :)

Thanks for the reply.

[–] whynotwriteme (7720) 4 years ago

Biden got in for a combination of two reasons.
1, He was a throwaway candidate, because before COVID and the BLM riots, Trump's re-election was a 100 % given.
2, Though the DNC leadership had high hopes for their far Left members, none of the other Democrat candidates was politically acceptable to the voting public. Mainstream American Democrats lean more toward JFK and Bill Clinton than Karl Marx. Even in Canada which is much farther to the Left than the USA, their extreme progressive NDP Party has NEVER come close to winning leadership of the country. If Canada wouldn't do it, why would the USA? Bernie was out of the question, as were all the others.

[–] TimMC (9143) 4 years ago

The voters chose JB because everyone else in the DNC pack was a Communist/Socialist. US voters by and large DO NOT WANT communism. He won by default. It isn't complicated.

PROBLEM: The DNC is overrun with Socialists/Communists so JB is doomed if he wins because they will kick his ass to the curb. He's a joke in history if he loses. Clearly his best days are behind him. Poor guy was better off not to run.

I wish Tulsi would have won the nomination, at least she has decent morals. Hot too. LOL.

[–] thetruth (61) 4 years ago

Not enough people would vote for Harris straight up. So, they had to pick the most likely candidate to die in office so that she can be handed the job when that occurs. Voter fraud will ensure their victory, he will pass at some point during his first term, and we will have dark, dark times ahead. I really hope I'm wrong.

[–] exithereplease (3553) 4 years ago

"Not enough people would vote for Harris straight up. So, they had to pick the most likely candidate to die in office"

lol

Voter fraud will ensure their victory, he will pass at some point during his first term

Then even more:

"dark, dark times ahead"

Q: Do you have a crystal ball?

[–] Galactus03 (4373) 4 years ago

Lol....truth be told Biden will be 81 at the end of his four year term. For an almost 77 year old he does look pretty frail. Look at his walk after the last debate. Plus he stammers a lot. Some people age much quicker. There are plenty of 70 something years old thats are very youthful and healthy and strong. Biden does not appear so.

So the above prediction is not anywhere out of the realm of possibility. We shall see.

[–] thetruth (61) 4 years ago

A: No, just common sense.

[–] BigMom (2020) 4 years ago

I am just tired to see his face always trending here

[–] BourbonKing (5777) 4 years ago

Meh, the Buttgig guy can't win because he's openly gay. I know that upsets gay people, but let's be honest. The swing votes needed the Dems to win the White House aren't going to flock to Pete.

The UBI Asian candidate (Yang or Wang? Can't remember) was too pie in the sky and not really relatable to the swing voter.

Swing votes in Shit States like Floriduh, the not-so-Great Polluted Lakes and the rustbelt midwest still rule the outcome of POTUS elections.

Unless Dems can flip Arizona, Texas, and keep a majority of Floriduh Blue the beforementioned states are irrelevant and an openly gay, black woman, or asian can win the nomination.