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Why Does Society Have a Problem with Black People Who Speak the Truth?

posted 2 years ago by HarveyManFredSin (4877)
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Is it because we are racist? 🤔

That's the only logical, reasonable answer I can think of.

It seems we're living in a weird era in which Black Men, the demographic that is most likely to be in prison, most likely to be unemployed, most likely to be stopped and killed by police, are one of the most demonised and hated by so-called 'progressives'.

Look at all the Black Men who've been cancelled and vilified in recent years. I can give you a list if you all like. It seems like every month, another Black Man is Public Enemy #1, usually, and IRONICALLY, from the so-called 'left' (the fucking group that's *supposed to be* on the SAME SIDE as Black Men).

It seems that post-George Floyd, the *only* respected Black man is a *dead* Black man. 😠

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

I now await all the self-identifying 'progressives' coming to spoiled rich white ginger prince, Harry and *biracial* rich girl, Meghan's defence in 1, 2, 3, whilst demonising a GENUINE Black Man. And you call yourselves 'left-wing' and 'anti-racist'. The FUCKING HYPOCRISY. 😠

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

I'm not sure if your premise is true. The only black men I can think of who have been vilified are ones who have commuted actual crimes. Do people have a problem with Chris Rock? He seems to have a lot of fans.

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

Did you see the article on another thread arguing that Chris Rock 'deserved' to be assaulted at last year's Oscars?

And let's be honest, it's not just Black men who've committed actual crimes who've been demonised of late.

I don't agree with the words of certain Black men who've said anti-Semitic and transphobic things over the last few years, but it does seem to me that they're getting far more abuse, from so-called 'progressives' than a white person would for saying the same thing. Also, they seem to be ignoring intersectional racism and systemic power, the latter of which Black American and European men in particular don't possess.

I just find it ironic and bizarre that in the wake of BLM and talk of 'more diversity', Black men seem to be losing out, whereas right now, Black women and Latinas seem to be regarded as 'flavour of the month'. It's a weird turn-of-events.

And despite Candace Owens, and Diamond and Silk, I keep reading lines like "Vote like a Black woman." Never "Vote like a Black *person*." There's an undercurrent of marginalisation towards Black men right now. We've all moved on from George Floyd (a man who was KILLED), to Meghan fucking Markle. *sigh*

Also, I'm noticing that a lot of the Black women who are regarded as 'queens' right now, have white husbands and boyfriends (including Markle and Kamala Harris). Yet *more* marginalisation of Black men. How dare Black men *think for themselves* unlike spoiled rich self-loathing white dudes who know their place, and simp for their 'queens'.

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

I saw that article claiming that Rock deserved to be slapped, but I don't think most of society thinks that. I've read lots of positive and supportive comments about Chris Rock online that suggest more people are on his side, than against him. I've seen criticism of different people, white and black, male and female, based on things they said. I haven't seen any evidence that black men are being criticised or punished more than anyone else.

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

In recent years, besides Trump, the #1 hate figures have been the following: Bill Cosby, R Kelly, Kanye West, Kyrie Irving, Herschel Walker, Andrew Tate, Dave Chappelle and now Chris Rock. 🤔 I even saw some people try to go after gay liberal Don Lemon, of all people, recently.

FWIW, I sympathised with Will Smith at the time (I still do, to a large extent). It was a moment of madness/an aberration. And I don't think he deserves to be *cancelled* for that *one* act.

That said, I'm offended that anyone can be allowed to *objectively* advocate such behaviour *on principle*. It's one thing to acknowledge that Smith made a mistake, and should be forgiven. It's another thing to say he was 'in the right' for using violence. The article basically said that some words invite violence, which I regard as an abhorrent notion.

Also, as an aside, I think it's interesting that the current demonisation of Rock and Chappelle, can arguably be traced back to the SNL episode that followed Trump's 2016 election victory, where they knowingly gave one another an ironic glance when a group of white ultra-liberal characters claimed that 'Trump's victory is the WORST thing to happen in America's history'. Like, how dare anyone (let alone a pair of BLACK MEN!) suggest that trans-atlantic slavery was worse than what we all could have predicted as the four year Presidency of an inept, incompetent buffoon who failed to build his wall or to successfully ban Muslim immigrants from entering the US... 🤦‍♂️

[–] WandererFromYs (2308) 2 years ago

In recent years, besides Trump, the #1 hate figures have been the following: Bill Cosby, R Kelly, Kanye West, Kyrie Irving, Herschel Walker, Andrew Tate, Dave Chappelle and now Chris Rock. 🤔 I even saw some people try to go after gay liberal Don Lemon, of all people, recently.

Is R.Kelly really an example of racism that you want to go with? Are you even aware of his crimes? If not I suggest watching Surviving R.Kelly on Netflix. Its an 11 hour documentary about his history of sexual crimes. R.Kelly isn't even a metoo case, the world knew that he married 15 years old Aaliyah in 1994. The world knew about his sex tape with underaged girls back in 2003. Somehow this guy was not only able to be free and assault woman for another 30 years, but he became more successful after this. Why didn't racism take this monster down? The black community wasn't going to do it. They were his biggest supporters, and defenders, even though 99% of his victims were black.

As for the rest of your list, I think you have to consider where the criticism is coming from. Herschel Walker and Kayne West are attack for being blacked conservatives. Although Kaynes recent Nazi comments deserve criticism. Dave Chappelle is getting attacked by the trans community, Kyrie by the pro Covid Vaccine and Jewish communities, and Don Lemon from his own Network. These are all leftist attacks, and even then, I doubt they are most prominent. JK Rowlings is bigger than most of this list.

Andrew Tate I don't think counts either. If we are viewing this through the lens of racism, I don't think most people know that his is half black.

Edit I reread your opening post, and the fact that the attack come from the left is your point also. The reason for a that these black people are not going along with the left’s rhetoric. It’s easy to control black people because most of them want the approval of their own community. So when they say things that go against the left, they get called things like uncle tom and coon, essentially telling them they aren’t black.

Is this racist? Of course it is. Telling people to act or think a certain way to fit some arbitrary definition of blackness is racist.

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

I'm not defending anything these people have said or done.

I'm a feminist, I abhor anti-Semitism, and I detest transphobia. And, suffice to say, I'm anti-GOP and pro-choice.

I just find it curious that *these* particular individuals are the *most* hated in society right now.

White people, *especially* white women, *especially* attractive, blonde, blue-eyed, white women from privileged backgrounds, seem to be given a pass by the 'left'.

I find it ironic to see self-identifying 'liberals' condemn working-class Black men, whilst simping for the blonde, blue-eyed *Aryan* likes of Taylor Swift (who, lest one forget, was the poster-girl for white nationalists a few years back, before the left pressured her to come out as anti-Trump/anti-racist), Britney Spears (who, lest one forget, was pro-Bush/pro-Iraq War), Amber Heard (who, lest one forget, made some offensive statements about immigrants and is a big Ayn Rand fan), and the late Princess Di (as blatant a symbol of WHITE PRIVILEGE as one could imagine).

We only ever hate on white women when they're common and trashy, like Marjorie Taylor-Greene and Lauren Boebert (the latter of whom hails from a genuinely poor, working-class background), or the working-class *and* Jewish Roseanne Barr.

Heck, even pretty white Republicans like Ivanka Trump and Kayleigh McEneny, get more of a pass than any Black, poor/working-class or 'ugly'/overweight conservatives.

The Nazis would be proud. Seems to me that self-identifying progressives, as well as self-hating Jews and self-hating Blacks, are still trying to win the affections of Stacey and Becky (ooh, aren't I such a 'toxic incel' for saying such a thing? 🙄).

Could it be because RICH WHITE UPPER-CLASS WOMEN now effectively rule the media and determine what is reported by magazines for RICH WHITE UPPER-CLASS WOMEN, like Vogue and Vanity Fair, thus shaping 'liberal' opinion (when these spoiled rich daddies' girls, who have benefited from socioeconomic PRIVILEGE, traditional...

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

...'Aryan' good-looks, an expensive/elite education, simping from pandering boyfriends/husbands/daddys, and numerous connections, are arguably ANATHEMA to true egalitarianism and everything the BLUE-COLLAR, RUST-BELT-based Democratic and Labour Party were traditionally about)?

And a lot of these women (I hate to use the word 'Karen') secretly, and, not-so-secretly, DESPISE Black men...
Look at a lot of Amy Schumer and Sarah Silverman's 'humour', which constantly punches down at Black men as 'super-predators' (a favourite word of white upper-class 'liberal' female hero, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Look at the case of Amy Cooper, the white privileged Hillary-supporter who called the police on an innocent Black man in Central Park. Van Jones, who I like a lot, had it right! White liberal Hillary Clinton supporters can pose a bigger threat to Black men than the KKK': https://thehill.com/homenews/media/500158-van-jones-a-white-liberal-hillary-clinton-supporter-can-pose-a-greater-threat/

[–] Rorikon (17855) 2 years ago

Those are outliers. 2 million vs 8 million. They're in the minority and those are articles are far and few.

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

You don't have to listen to me, but just know that the OP is disinfo.

The whole point of him posting nonsense like this is so that people like you can engage him, so he can keep dropping talking points.

He is not from the United States, so how does he know that "Society" have a problem with Chris Rock? He's never set foot here.

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

You're not from the United States. You are disinfo.

[–] Rorikon (17855) 2 years ago

One doesn't need to be from the US to be US or live it. If all you consume is American news, tv, movies, politics, etc, you're pretty much as close to the next American, more so than an illegal.

[–] MrMovie (897) 2 years ago

Radical white leftists think they can tell black people how to act which makes them the racists. Ironic isn’t it?

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

It's what I'm observing, speaking even as a white leftist.

Some white 'liberals' get offended when Black men don't think as they do. There's a master-slave mentality going on there.

"We've given you so much. Why aren't you going to do as you're told?"

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

It's why I don't call myself a liberal anymore despite the fact that I basically lean to the left.

[–] Rorikon (17855) 2 years ago

White Woke-Leftists 101:
https://youtu.be/T0q2ZR4nBuE

You think it's hard being a black man in a white man's world? Try being a white woke-leftist who feels bad about a black man being in a white man's world.