His career is over
This staged incident will forever mar his comic legacy.
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You don’t stage a live event with two F-bombs. It was not staged. While it was off camera, methinks Will was spurred after he saw his wife’s reaction after he had already laughed at the joke. It was a bad knee-jerk reaction after seeing his wife.
shareLMAO...NOPE...IF ANYTHING HE WILL BENEFIT...DUDE TOOK THE SLAP LIKE A MAN AND CAME OUT JOKING.
shareYour comment is kind of contradictory. Why would Chris Rock stage something to finish his own career?
If that was Smith alone doing that, then it is hardly staged.
Also I think Chris Rock is going to be all right, at worst his joke was insensitive, dancing on the line, maybe crossed it just a little bit.
Let me clarify---Chris Rock's career is over at least insofar as I am concerned and others like me who regard this Oscars moment as a staged incident. I'll never look at him the same way after this, just as I never looked at Kanye West the same way after his similar staged event a few years ago. Will Smith--I never cared for his career or any project he has ever been associated with except for his effective role in Six Degrees of Seperation almost 30 years ago. To lose respect for him is no huge loss. But Chris Rock, whom I regarded as funny and talented, will be one I am sorry to say goodbye to.
shareYour dunderheaded idiocy, shallowness, and lack of judgement know no bounds. The more you post, the more evident it becomes. Either that or you do this deliberately to be "controversial", for reasons which can only be speculated at.
shareI think there is truth in that.
So far I don't think this incident has winners, it is a clear negative for Smith and at least some negative impacts on Oscar, Hollywood in general, and Rock:
Oscar, for giving Smith the award after the incident.
Hollywood, for giving the standing ovation to Smith's acceptance speech, and everyone comforted Smith after the slap but not Rock. I think it was clearly due to the fact Smith was much more important than Rock in Hollywood.
Rock, there is the humiliation on stage, the joke on women's ailment is highlighted, which is going to lose him some female fans, and there is also the failure to come up with a witty comeback on stage, which is a bit of failure as a comedian.
He's making bank from the higher sales. The only real fallout from it whether it was staged or not is that he won't be asked back to the Oscars anytime soon. Not because he got hit, but because the joke that caused all of this was not one he had vetted in the rehearsal for the show. The Oscars require the presenters to stick to a script of either pre-written jokes by the Oscar's writers or to jokes that have been vetted and approved. The GI Jane line wasn't approved which was a big no-no. That's where he will catch heat.
shareFrom what I read so far his jokes were pre-written and rehearsed, do you have sources for what you are saying?
shareThere are several reports that the joke wasn't pre-vetted. Just google it and you'll find one. I saw one in Entertainment Weekly, Dailymail, Mirror... probably more place than that if you look.
shareThen please provide a link, just one. Because what I read so far saying the opposite.
I start to think the academy is changing narratives.
https://ew.com/awards/oscars/chris-rock-jada-pinkett-smith-joke-not-in-oscars-script/
Thanks for that. But "industry source says" or "a source close to the situation" is a bit weak, also Chris Rock did not confirm it.
You see that is not "the academy spokesperson says", or "the academy show director", not even a senior executive, nobody is willing to put their name behind the claim.
If that is a lie, the evidence of the opposite surfaced, the academy can quickly deny it "we did not say it".
So for the moment I will just take it as a media narrative from the academy.
Because it were indeed true, I bet the academy would have announced it in a more official manner.
They would make an announcement at all. Whether he did vetted the joke or not. If he vetted it, admitting they gave a green light to making fun of someone with a medical problem would be an issue. If they didn't vet it and Rock went off the reservation they also wouldn't want to admit that because it would give more validity to Smith's side since it would be evidence that Rock had strayed from what was appropriate. The Academy is in a no win situation. And while they may bitch and moan about it they also know that it was a blessing to them given the sad ratings they have been getting. They will be looking at higher ratings next year just because people will hope something happens again.
Now the media aren't going to be making this shit up out of thin air either because if they do things like that it puts them at risk to a lawsuit. In this case if what they said was bullshit they could be sued by Rock. To me, I expect it is true that the joke wasn't vetted. The probability that the producers would have allowed a comedian to make fun of someone's medical problem is pretty close to zero because it really is simply in bad taste and this wasn't a roast of Jada so no reason the nastiness of a joke like that.
If they didn't vet it and Rock went off the reservation they also wouldn't want to admit that because it would give more validity to Smith's side since it would be evidence that Rock had strayed from what was appropriate.
No, there is no downside for the academy if they did not vet it. Their asses are covered, that is the best position for them. Smith's side is wrong either way, what validity are you talking about? How would the academy be responsible in anyway about Chris Rock's joke if it weren't in the script?
Now the media aren't going to be making this shit up out of thin air
I think the academy fed them the narrative, unofficially. share
Actually , his career will benefit from the slap.
Sold out shows and fresh new slap material to ramble on about
I give your troll post a rating of 1/10.
shareIf you can't tell staged from real you're a moron. This was real.
shareLooks pretty staged, buddy
shareWe are experiencing a time where a certain amount of people are happy to believe anything outlandishly stupid over what the average person can see as being absurd and having no value or pertinence.
shareI know. And what looks so faked to so many of us looks absolutely real to people who want to believe what they see on television. They could never believe their stars might pull an Andy Kaufman-style prank. I don't laugh at Will Smith and Chris Rock. I laugh at all the fools who believe it was a real moment.
shareWell great that you are so clever that nothings get by you... but please explain who benefits from this (according to you) staged event... Will, Chris, The Oscars?
And who staged it... just Will and Chris? Or were the people at the Oscars also in on it?
Just enlighten me... which great minds are behind this staged event?
Ok, but what was the point of staging someone getting slapped at the Oscars? What exactly was gained? Can’t just scream conspiracy without a theory
shareNeither of them is that good an actor - except to fools.
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