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June Allyson Comment


A very respected and well liked actress commented on Joan Crawford and the Mommie Dearest book and movie. Scroll down to see it.

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Allyson never witnessed any actual abuse. In her autobiography she cites an instance (involving Christina) where she felt Joan was being excessively strict.

The incident in question involved Christina being shunned and disallowed to attend a party because of some infraction of the rules. She had to sit quietly with the present at her side for the same duration of time as the party.

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A very nasty thing to do.

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"Shunned." I used to call that being turned into a non-person. In fact, my mother would say I was a "non-person," and would proceed to shun me.

A friend said her mother would do the same thing. She would walk next to her mother through the house crying, "Mama! Just LOOK at me! Please, Mama!" Shunned. To say that isn't "actual abuse" means, thankfully, you don't know what that's like. I could be a human being or nothing, all at the whim of my mother.

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TouchMink is a suck up and, hence, laughably selective in her indignance. Others noticed the abuse.

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Yes they did. Helen Hayes for one, and she wouldn't allow her son at Crawfords home after he told her that Joan tied Her son to the bed at night. The woman did not like children and only adopted them for publicity.

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Many people claim others such as Helen Hayes cited seeing abuse, however, that is NOT true. This is based on a chapter in Hayes' "My Life In Three Acts" in which she cites Joan as being an unfair and overly-strict mother who didn't seem to fit the outline of a good mother.

That is not citing abuse, this is citing poor mothering skills - and while that can be damaging to a child's psyche, it isn't abuse or malicious behavior.

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You have got to be a Crawford mega-fan. There were many people who witnessed the abuse. I only wish I'd made a list of them, but then you wouldn't have believed it anyway. Keep your fantasy of the Joan Crawford that never existed. Poor mothering skills doesn't begin to cover what that woman was about.

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Crawford's other two daughters, Cathy and Cindy, as well as Cathy's children Casey and Carla, remembered her as a wonderful mother and grandmother. I guess they weren't credible witnesses, right? According to those of her children who don't seem to have had mental health issues there was nothing wrong with Joan's mothering skills. Posthumously crapping on celebrity parents pays big time--just ask Gary Crosby (another lying sack of shit). Keep your fantasy of the Joan Crawford who never existed outside of a gold-digging book and the ridiculous movie that was based on it.

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Bing Crosby's treatment of his children had already been documented by other writers and the same goes for Joan Crawford.

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I love June....she was the sh!t.

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