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☝️ Pop vs. Box 👇 '61 - '01

posted 3 years ago by Redsfan001 (6218)
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Card 86

Key -

B - box office rank for year
P - current popular ranking for year
* - writer/actor
** - director/actor
*** - writer/director/actor
🍄 - 2nd place popular loser for year
🤔 - most obscure

61 Splendor in the Grass B15 P2
61 The Roman Spring of Mrs. Stone B64 P57
62 All Fall Down B83 P73
64 Lilith B94 P82
65 Mickey One B148 P141
65 Promise Her Anything B103 P97
66 Kaleidoscope B169 P166
67 Bonnie and Clyde B5 P4
70 The Only Game in Town B32 P209
71 McCabe & Mrs. Miller B21 P37
71 $ (Dollars) B29 P131
74 The Parallax View B38 P34
75 Shampoo* B5 P31
75 The Fortune B111 P87
78 Heaven Can Wait*** B6 P29
81 Reds*** B13 P49
87 Ishtar B73 P114
90 Dick Tracy** B8 P23
91 Bugsy B25 P64
94 Love Affair* B78 P178
98 Bulworth*** 🍄B71 P175
01 Town & Country 🤔B139 P254

Movies scored - 22
Box sum - 1362
Pop sum - 2239

Box avg rank - 61.91
Pop avg rank - 101.71

BA-PA = -39.86

Box top 20 - ☕☕☕☕☕☕
Pop top 20 - ✍️✍️

Best box - Bonnie and Clyde (5), Shampoo (5)
Worst box - Kaleidescope (169)
Best pop - Splendor in the Grass (2)
Worst pop - Town and Country (254)

Pop gainer - The Fortune (+24)
Pop loser - Town & Country (-115)

B+P

Best - Bonnie and Clyde (9)
Worst - Town & Country (393)

It is natural for popular rankings to be higher due to the influx of art house, international and straight to video releases. Popular rankings are taken from IMDb and are fluid. Most box office rankings are taken from The Numbers website (domestic)

Scoring b-p

10+ = excellent
9 to -9 = good
-10 to -29 = avg
-30 to -49 = poor
-50 and below = very poor

Example

Shampoo B5 P31 = -26(avg)

Tally

Excellent (10pts each) = 4
Good (5pts each) = 6
Average (0pts each) = 4
Poor (-5pts each) = 3
Very poor (-10pts each) = 5
Pop top 20 bonus (5pts each) = 2

+40+30-15-50+10

Mr. Beatty's pop/box library score:

15

[–] huwdj (4571) 3 years ago

I didn't realise how few films he'd actually made. He was such a big star when I was a kid but (apart from stories about his love life) I wonder if it's because he seized the producer/director/writer roles as much as the actual films he stared in - most of which are forgotten.

[–] Redsfan001 (6218) 3 years ago

That's a good guess, much more energy and time put in.

[–] huwdj (4571) 3 years ago

Listening to Leslie Caron on Desert Island Discs. She had a two year affair with Beatty and said something like, "He was a man who knew Hollywood, how it worked and how to stay in front of the press". Which probably explains why he was so famous at the time but in retrospect it's hard to figure out why.

[–] Redsfan001 (6218) 3 years ago

His sex appeal to women probably topped Burt Reynolds, Paul Newman and Robert Redford in the 1970's...a hard thing to do. That Carly Simon wrote a song that most people think was about him didn't hurt his reputation one bit.

[–] Redsfan001 (6218) 8 months ago

Card updated 6/27/24

(Box office data on more films found)