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She escaped the Oscar curse!


It happens over and over again that the actors who win an Oscar fade away quickly and never earn another one after their win. I was a bit discouraged during these years that Kate seemed to have disappeared; fearing that it might have happened to her too. With such a strong return to form in Jobs it is so great seeing her again on the awards circuit and not letting some actresses of only quarter of her talent closing in on her Oscar history (I'm talking to you JLaw!)

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I am really happy that she is back.. ill be glad if she wins her second trophy

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I think Jennifer Lawrence is beginning to match Kate's acting talent. I mean, Kate is twice as old as JLaw so of course she isn't there yet.

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I strongly disagree. JLaw is nowhere near as talented as Kate, and she is vastly overrated with more Oscar nominations than she deserves. JLaw is the current IT girl, but she hardly takes chances anymore...all she's been doing are blockbuster sequels and DOR movies. Boring! Kate is a much more versatile actress and her resume at 25 years old beats JLaw's hands down.

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IT girl, still really after four years? Do you know that she was contractually obligated to be in those blockbusters for all these years? For that reason, she wasn't able to do many films outside of that except for the O Russell projects that fit her busy schedule. Those franchise films were also smart decision that made her a movie star by her own right and very known to the public. This year marks the end of that commitment with the last XMEN movie coming out in MAY. She's also doing films with Aronofsky and Spielberg next. Her movies with DOR brought her so much acclaim, and she did three different praised performances under his direction, why would an actress refuse the opportunity to be in films with roles written specifically for her since she's considered his muse and all? How many actresses can say the same thing for themselves? Most A list directors are only concerned with male actors.

I like Winslet just fine and I'm a fan of some of her work, but it's disappointing to bring a young actress down only to praise another. Lawrence's it girl status as you say isn't gonna influence the opinion of an organization like AMPAS or the BAFTA and so on, if it was the case they would have awarded and nominated many popular it girls with every film they do. JOY, Silver Linings and American hustle are highly praised performances, same with Winter's bone. And the girl is talented enough, acting legends even praise her all the time and they have nothing to gain from doing so. Don't put her down to elevate another.

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Errmm. ..Jlaw as a 25-years old actress >>> Winslet at 25. Take it or leave it. It's that simple.

I am actually a fan of Kate, but you didn't need to bring a young talent down to praise Winslet. Winslet is one of the best actresses of her generation; she doesn't need that.

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Yes, IT girl. JLaw has been Hollywood's IT girl since scoring the lead role in Hunger Games and starring in SLP in 2012. That said, her thunder has been stolen of late by Brie Larson and Daisy Ridley. And you don't need to give a long lecture on all JLaw's movie commitments, lol. I already know all that. But the bottom line is, she CHOSE to sign up for all those X-Men movies and keep working with DOR. No one put a gun to JLaw's head. Her choice, and I simply am not impressed with any of her work, aside from Winter's Bone.

Lastly, chill JLaw stans. Go back to JLaw's comment board if all you want to do is read praise about her! What do you expect? This is Kate Winslet's board. I don't waste my time visiting JLaw's board because I'm not a fan. I'm not bringing your precious JLaw down to praise Winslet. I only replied to someone who said that JLaw might begin to match Winslet's talent. She's not even close, in my opinion.

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No need to get too worked up by the way. I responded to you in a respectful manner, being a stan doesn't concern you if i'm engaging in a discussion and not attacking you in the process because of my preferences. We don't have to agree. I can post in any board I want, especially if there is something I want to discuss, regardless of whose board is this. I don't think you run IMDB to tell me where to go back to, do you? I like Winslet just fine as I mentioned before and I check her board from time to time. Also, I'm not singing Lawrence's praises, in fact, I do criticize her when there is something to criticize. Nobody is perfect nor immune to anything as far as I'm concerned. I'm merely pointing to facts about her filmography. If you know all of these things before, then you're indeed reading things about her, whether they're in IMDB or somewhere else, it proves you're interested, somehow, even though you claim otherwise. Cause why would you know anything if you don't like her? Personally, I wouldn't be interested in reading details or filmography facts about someone that doesn't interest me or that I'm not a fan of their work. And no one is judging you because you're not impressed with her acting. It's your right to have that opinion, totally.

Also, the IT girl status as you keep describing is something several actresses have obtained throughout the history of cinema or arts in general. But that status doesn't last much or shall I say doesn't develop outside of being the cute girl everybody likes and talks about if it's not accompanied with a talent, acclaimed work, personality and a likability.

Jennifer is now more of a respected A list actress. If she was just an it girl, then the media machine will be the only thing she has by her side and that would have died a while ago by now as well. The girl does have more than that as we all witness, nominations and wins by respected critic groups and organizations as I pointed before, acclaimed directors willing to walk out and walk in in a project just because she's attached to it. Scripts being written for her and so forth. So to me she already graduated that It girl formula with her current position. She left it to actresses like the two you mentioned: Ridley, Larson, I will add Lupita, Shailene from a couple of years ago as well as Margot Robbie, Alicia Vikander and others. I don't call that stealing her thunder, since these actresses have yet to prove several things that JL already has.

Larson will most likely win her Oscar by the end of the month and that's a nice start, that would also be a very well deserved win, but she's still not known that much to the public, so will she become a star? That's left to see. Hopefully she will. I mean I would like female talented actresses to be major stars and on par with the male ones. I'm wondering the same thing with Ridley and whether she will have success outside the Star Wars franchise and get critically acclaimed work. If these actresses have all of that star making formula that Lawrence has. Then you're probably right by saying they're having an it girl status that will go as far as enabling them to steal the thunder away for JL.

Going back to the franchise plus the DOR thing, no young actress is stupid enough to turn down those whether you like them or not. The former happened before JL was even a recognizable name and started in 2010, and the latter is a collaboration several actors would wich to have. I believe even Winslet would probably love to be cast in a DOR film. She was also linked in the last couple of years to a YA franchise, not as successful as THG for example, but you know, she tried.

Anyhow, to have somebody willing to write for an actress specifically and help her add an acclaimed performance or an interesting character to her resume like O Russell does is something great and rare unfortunately nowadays. As I said, it's something male actors have much more privilege in having. So whether you or I are impressed with that doesn't matter. The fact is this, this franchise plus the DOR formula built a career many wish to have and the success JL got from them as well as her nominations from that beg to differ with what you think.

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LOL, trust me, I'm not worked up. You are the one who should relax dear. Take a deep breath. You seem like a young and passionate JLaw fan, but really there's no need to be overly defensive at any slight criticism of her.

As I said, JLaw is Hollywood's sweetheart and current IT girl. She may be overtaken by other young starlets in time to come, as that is the fleeting nature of IT girls. However, acting talent has no relation to one's popularity (or IT girl status). I do think JLaw is more than an IT girl, she does have some talent. You keep harping on the fact that JLaw is a major movie star (thanks to the Hunger Games and XMen franchises) and that is well and good for her.

But has it occurred to you that not every young actress wants to become a major movie star? Kate Winslet after doing Titanic had all of Hollywood at her feet, getting offered any roles she wanted, but she went the opposite direction of JLaw. She turned down Hollywood blockbusters and went the indie movie route. So Kate is not a huge box-office movie star by choice. She's happy acting in small movies with roles that intrigue and challenge her. This is not to say that Winslet never made any missteps in her career - I think she could have mixed up both mainstream and indie movies more had she wanted to be a bigger star. Divergent (awful movie, by the way), Kate did more for her kids and to connect with the younger generation. If she wanted to latch onto a big movie franchise to get more fame, she would have done so years ago. Kate could have taken part in Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings or the Harry Potter franchise easily.

Back to the main point. I don't even think JLaw and Kate Winslet should be compared in the same breath. One has a long illustrious career spanning +20 years, the other is a hot young actress with a string of high profile roles. Wait until JLaw is 40, and if her career is still going consistently well, then I might reconsider my opinion of her. She has yet to prove herself in terms of longevity. Just wait and see. Some are predicting she's becoming the next Meryl Streep, getting nominations for just sneezing in a film. lol. That is what I find irritating about JLaw, to be honest. Her popularity is making her obsessive stans (not you) think she is the most talented young actress in the world, when there are many young actresses who are just as talented or more, but do not have the same opportunities as JLaw (Saoirse Ronan, to name one). JLaw's roles in DOR movies are ludicrous as she plays characters who are much older than herself - especially in AH. That's why her performances often ring false to me. I just don't buy her as a mother with kids.

Anyway, this will be my last post on JLaw here, as it is not really suited for Winslet's board. Have a nice day!

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