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☝️ Pop vs. Box πŸ‘‡ '55- '00


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Key -

B - box office rank for year
P - current popular rank for year
πŸ’£ - popular loser top list
πŸ„ - 2nd place popular loser for year
πŸ₯œ - 3rd place popular loser for year
πŸ€” - most obscure
* - final film appearance

55 The Kentuckian B82 P75
55 The Indian Fighter B144 P141
56 Bigger Than Life B81 P73
57 A Face in the Crowd B33 P13
57 Slaughter on 10th Ave - no data
58 King Creole B29 P22
58 Voice in the Mirror B192 P192
58 Ride a Crooked Trail B197 P197
58 Onionhead B71 P68
59 Gangster Story - no data
60 Strangers When We Meet B117 P110
62 Lonely Are the Brave B46 P26
62 Who's Got the Action? B21 P223
63 Charade B10 P7
63 Island of Love - no data
64 Ensign Pulver B138 P132
64 Fail Safe B49 P25
64 Goodbye Charlie B110 P102
65 Mirage B22 P55
66 The Fortune Cookie B22 P35
67 A Guide for the Married Man - no data
68 The Odd Couple πŸ’£ B3 P27
68 The Secret Life of an American Wife -no data
68 Candy B15 P24
69 Cactus Flower B8 P43
69 Hello, Dolly B4 P10
71 A New Leaf B150 P79
71 Plaza Suite B36 P125
71 Kotch B39 P266
72 Pete "n" Tillie B18 P153
73 Charley Varrick B144 P78
73 The Laughing Policeman B48 P107
74 The Taking of Pelham 1,2,3 B34 P22
74 Earthquake B5 P36
74 The Front Page B26 P74
75 The Sunshine Boys B67 P13
76 The Bad News Bears B10 P3
78 Casey's Shadow B42 P260
78 House Calls πŸ„ B12 P210
78 California Suite πŸ’£ B10 P88
80 Little Miss Maker B65 P214
80 Hopscotch B51 P106
81 First Monday in October - no data
81 Buddy Buddy B77 P157
82 I Ought to Be in Pictures B72 P202
83 The Survivors B54 P99
85 Movers & ShakersπŸ€” B166 P358
86 Pirates B152 P120
88 The Couch Trip πŸ₯œ B82 P250
88 The Little Devil - no data
91 JFK B17 P20
93 Dennis the Menace B25 P17
93 Grumpy Old Men B15 P60
94 I.Q. πŸ₯œ B53 P149
95 The Grass Harp - no data
85 Grumpier Old Men B20 P66
96 I'm Not Rappoport - no data
97 Out to Sea B69 P133
98 The Odd Couple II B90 P178
00 Hanging Up* B68 P124

Movies scored - 51
Box sum - 3116
Pop sum - 5364

Box avg rank - 61.10
Pop avg rank - 105.20

BA-PA = -44.10

Box top 20 - ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️
Pop top 20 - πŸ₯ πŸ₯ πŸ₯ πŸ₯ πŸ₯ πŸ₯ πŸ₯ 

Best box - The Odd Couple (3)
Worst box - Ride a Crooked Trail (197)
Best pop - The Bad News Bears (3)
Worst pop - Movers & Shakers (358)

Pop gainer - A New Leaf (+71)
Pop loser - Kotch (-237)

It is natural for popular rankings to be higher due to the influx of art house, international and straight to video releases.

Scoring b-p

10+ = excellent
9 to -9 = good
-10 to -29 = avg
-30 to -49 = poor
-50 and below = very poor

Example

The Fortune Cookie B22 P35 = -13(avg)

Tally

Excellent (10pts each) = 6
Good (5pts each) = 18
Average (0pts each) = 2
Poor (-5pts each) = 7
Very poor (-10 pts each) = 18
Pop top 20 bonus (5pts each) = 8

+60+90-35-180+40

Mr. Matthau's pop/box score

-25

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Brutally low score for a character actor star who could do comedy, hard drama and even romance. Though I have to admit it's been a while since I watched one of his films - probably something I should rectify.

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Yeah..had a hard time giving him a record low score ...one of my favorite actors.

Comedy for some reason generally loses popularity over time.

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Free movies on YouTube

Movers and Shakers (85)

https://youtu.be/oepvXBQWveI

Pete "n" Tillie (72)

https://youtu.be/JES1JQMODFU

Hopscotch (80)

https://youtu.be/koC8LjGlhs4

Who's Got the Action? (62)

https://youtu.be/zGEDyvL7ti8

Charade (63)

https://youtu.be/oH_4WguANB4

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Vote count/rank data

Total vote count - all movies listed:

760,000

Avg vote count per movie:

15,200

Avg vote rank per movie in year:

123rd

Movies in top 20 vote rank:

🎭🎭🎭🎭🎭🎭

Top 5 (# of votes)

1. J.F.K. 159,270
2. Charade 79,596
3. Dennis the Menace 62,445 (37th)
4. Grumpy Old Men 50,758 (52nd)
5. The Odd Couple 36,712

Top 5 (vote rank for year)

1. Charade (6th)
2. J.F.K (9th)
3. (tie) The Odd Couple (12th)
3. (tie) The Taking of Pelham 1,2,3 (12th)(32k)
5. Fail Safe (13th) (23k)

Bottom 5 (# of votes)

1. The Secret Life of an American Wife 204
2. Island of Love 281
3. Who's Got the Action? 404
4. Movers & Shakers 565
5. Casey's Shadow 654

Bottom 5 (vote rank for year)

1. The Secret Life of an American Wife (487th)
2. Movers & Shakers (369th)
3. I'm Not Rapport (342nd) (2k)
4. Island of Love (312nd)
5. Casey's Shadow (269th)

...and the rest

Strangers When We Met 2k/58th
Lonely Are the Brave 9k/34th
Ensign Pulver 2k/149th
Goodbye Charlie 2k/137th
Mirage 5k/57th
The Fortune Cookie 15k/23rd
A Guide/Married Man 3k/90th
Candy 3k/76th
Cactus Flower 11k/22nd
Hello Dolly 16k/16th
A New Leaf 7k/54th
Plaza Suite 3k/120th
Kotch 2k/205th
Pete 'n' Tillie 1k/238th
Charlie Varrick 13k/41st
The Laughing Policeman 3k/106th
Earthquake 17k/26th
The Front Page 14k/29th
The Sunshine Boys 6k/52nd
The Bad News Bears 23k/22nd
House Calls 2k/146th
California Suite 8k/55th
Little Miss Maker 2k/202nd
Hopscotch 8k/75th
First Monday in October 2k/208th
Buddy Buddy 5k/110th
I Ought to be in Pictures 1k/244th
The Survivors 5k/99th
Pirates 9k/99th
The Couch Trip 5k/160th
The Little Devil 4k/191st
I.Q. 26k/72nd
The Grass Harp 18k/117th
Grumpier Old Men 28k/97th
Out to Sea 9k/171st
The Odd Couple II 10k/172nd
Hanging Up 13k/172nd

Date posted 2/6/23

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Card updated 5/30/24

(Box data found on more films)

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