...but I have a horrible feeling that Karen Allen's role in the new Indiana Jones flick is going to be a 2 minute cameo. I hope I am wrong and she has a big part in the movie but knowing Hollywood's reputation when it comes to over 50 actresses they won't be giving her much screen time.
shareKaren Allen will be involved in the filming until October, so I highly doubt she will have a 2 minute cameo.
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Why would she have a 2 minute cameo, when in the ONLY 3 pictures officially released so far - she is in two?
Both of which, she is with Spielberg...
Seems to me if she was only getting a cameo, it would be more of a audience suprise.
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Just in case you haven't seen it yet, she's in the last 3/4 of the movie with hardly any time off-screen. She's just as good as she was in Raiders! The audience in the showing I went to seemed quite surprised and happy when she first appeared in the movie. Lots of gasps and "oh!"s.
shareOh come on guys, which film were you watching? She was awful, had a medicated grin on her face throughout her screen-time, was given nothing to do by Koepp (and Lucas), only added dead-weight to what was quickly becoming a party-of-five film that not only destroyed the promise of its first half, but then went on to undermine the first three films (and perhaps undermine LaBeouf's claims to later spin-offs). She was not the Karen Allen that I knew from "Raiders of the Lost Ark", had obviously lost her acting ability and charm somewhere in the trip to CGI Peru, and got locked into a battle with John Hurt to see who could be the most distracting feature of the whole film.
A shambles, but more so a shame.
Yikes jj doody doesn't hate to be negative, but I agree that she wasn't anywhere near the Marion from Raiders in the current film- just a shadow of the original character. Come on yak beater get a grip. I also agree that she (and the rest of the cast) were given an at best so-so screenplay to work with. I assume you're including Lucas in the blame for her poorly written character because he hired the screenwriter. Other than Ford doing a pretty decent job with the character after so many years having gone by, Blanchet's Natasha thing, and LaBeouf being fine (though the biker thing was pretty uninspired) no one else made much of a positive impression. The Hurt character was totally worthless and unneeded, didn't care for Winstone either. Basically it was just nice to see and hear Allen again after so many years and again I thought she did okay with a poorly written character this time, and I didn't see this "medicated grin" all the time. Her smile and eyes are the best parts about her. The movie as a whole wasn't anything special but I wouldn't categorize it as a shambles- what I think is a shame is not that we should have expected Allen/Marion to be who she was back in Raiders, or realistically expected Indy 4 to be great (not with Lucas involved that's for sure) but that Spielberg/Lucas didn't include her in the second and third sequels. She's in this one strictly as a nod to tie up loose threads in the saga and as a nod to fans, and acting ability (or not) was a secondary consideration.
shareI take your points Tommy, but I guess we both agree that this is a film, not a reunion or a convention. There is no question that Allen remains a beautiful woman, and that her presence in "Raiders of the Lost Ark" was exceptionally important to that film's success. I can also appreciate that she was pleased to be back on set, but it's hard for me to accept seeing her carry that through even the moments of peril. She was underwritten obviously, but has to take a bit of blame because, unlike others underwritten likewise, there was no effort to at least occupy the dead space positively (which I think LaBeouf did, Blanchett to a much lesser extent did too).
This is a bit off-topic, but I'm sure we also agree that if Spielberg and Lucas were so intent on throwbacks and nostalgia (Allen being a part of this), then they would have realised that CGI didn't exist in the 50s, just in the same way it hadn't in the 30s. I do think that CGI broke the contract between parodied material and these homage films that existed in the previous three, and this alone makes the concept of throwbacks to other characters very hard to place in the correct context.
jj doody,your post is one of the best posts about Karen Allen and The Kingdom of Crystal Skull problems i have read..I agree 100 p cent with u.
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