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☝️ Pop vs. Box πŸ‘‡ '67 - '12


Card 46

Key -

B - box office rank for year
P - current popular rank for year
πŸŽ–οΈ - first place rank for year
πŸ—½- most votes for year
πŸ„ - second place popular loser
* - director only
πŸ€” - most obscure

67 The Tiger Makes Out - no data
67 The Graduate πŸŽ–οΈπŸŽ–οΈπŸ—½ B1 P1
68 Madigan's Millions - no data
69 Midnight Cowboy πŸŽ–οΈ B2 P1
69 John and Mary B22 P154
70 Little Big Man B7 P14
71 Who is Harry Kellerman...πŸ€”B72 P398
70 Straw Dogs B122 P9
72 Alfredo, Alfredo B96 P362
73 Papillon B4 P4
74 Lenny B24 P39
76 All the President's Men B6 P8
76 Marathon Man B15 P20
78 Straight Time B37 P61
79 Agatha B45 P111
79 Kramer vs. Kramer πŸŽ–οΈ B1 P15
82 Tootsie B12 P16
87 Ishtar B73 P114
88 Rain Man πŸŽ–οΈB1 P14
89 Family Business B80 P152
90 Dick Tracy B8 P23
91 Billy Bathgate B72 P130
91 Hook B9 P4
92 Hero B66 P128
95 Outbreak B24 P19
96 Sleepers B28 P2
96 American Buffalo B220 P344
97 Mad City B112 P210
97 Wag the Dog B52 P87
98 Sphere B58 P53
99 The Messenger : Joan of Arc B103 P64
03 Moonlight Mile B155 P218
03 Confidence B130 P196
03 Runaway Jury B59 P108
04 Finding Neverland B61 P71
04 I Heart Huckabees B133 P151
04 Meet the Fockers B4 P69
05 The Lost City - no data
06 Perfume : The Story of Murder - no data
06 Stranger Than Fiction B77 P90
07 Mr. Magoriums Wonder Emporium B83 P131
08 Last Chance Harvey B126 P285
10 Little Fockers πŸ„ B16 P132
12 Quartet* B105 P195

Movies scored - 40
Box sum - 2321
Pop sum - 4203

Box avg rank - 58.02
Pop avg rank - 105.07

BA-PA = -47.05

Box top 20 - πŸŽ“πŸŽ“πŸŽ“πŸŽ“πŸŽ“πŸŽ“πŸŽ“πŸŽ“πŸŽ“πŸŽ“πŸŽ“πŸŽ“πŸŽ“
Pop top 20 - 🎟️🎟️🎟️🎟️🎟️🎟️🎟️🎟️🎟️🎟️🎟️🎟️🎟️

Best box - The Graduate (1), Kramer vs Kramer (1), Rain Man (1)
Worst Box - American Buffalo (220)
Best pop - The Graduate (1), Midnight Cowboy (1)
Worst pop - Who is Harry Kellerman and Why Is He Saying Those Terrible Things About Me? (398)

Pop gainer - Straw Dogs (+113)
Pop loser - Who is Harry Kellerman and Why Is He Saying Those Terrible Things About Me?(-326)

B+P

Best - The Graduate (2)
Worst - American Buffalo (566)

Pop vs Box Awards

πŸŽ–οΈπŸŽ–οΈπŸŽ–οΈπŸŽ–οΈπŸŽ–οΈ
πŸ—½
πŸ„

It is natural for popular rankings to be higher due to the influx of art house, international and straight to video releases.

Scoring b-p

10+ = excellent
9 to -9 = good
-10 to -29 = avg
-30 to -49 = poor
-50 and below = very poor

Example

Dick Tracy B8 P23 = -15(avg)

Tally

Excellent (10pts each) = 3
Good (5pts each) = 10
Average (0pts each) = 8
Poor (-5 pts each) = 4
Very poor (-10pts each) = 15
Pop top 20 bonus (5pts each) = 13

+30+50-20-130+65

Mr. Hoffman's pop/box library score

-25

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Vote count / rank data

Total vote count all movies:

3,876,000

Avg vote count per movie:

92,285

Avg vote rank:

88th

Top 5 (# of votes)

1. Rain Man 514k
2. The Graduate 274k
3. Meet the Fockers 272k
4. Hook 255k
5. Perfume : A Story of a Murder 252k

Top 5 (vote rank for year)

1. The Graduate (1st)
2. (tie) Midnight Cowboy (2nd)
2. (tie) Rain Man (2nd)
4. Papillon (3rd)
5. Hook (4th)

Bottom 5 (# of votes)

1. The Tiger Makes Out 304
2. Madigan's Millions 390
3. Who is Harry Kellerman and Why is He Saying..994
4. Alfredo, Alfredo 1103
5. John and Mary 2231

Bottom 5 (vote rank for year)

1. The Tiger Makes Out (359th)
2. Madigan's Millions (347th)
3. The Lost City (263rd)
4. American Buffalo (250th)
5. Alfredo, Alfredo (224th)

and the rest...

Little Big Man 36k/7th
Straw Dogs 61k/7th
Lenny 16k/27th
All the President's Men 116k/6th
Marathon Man 65k/8th
Straight Time 9k/51st
Agatha 3k/103rd
Kramer vs Kramer 146k/6th
Tootsie 108k/11th
Ishtar 11k/85th
Family Business 13k/88th
Dick Tracy 62k/29th
Billy Bathgate 12k/88th
Hero 23k/75th
Outbreak 131k/24th
Sleepers 224k/12th
Mad City 20k/115th
Wag the Dog 85k/46th
Sphere 107k/41st
The Messenger : Joan of Arc 67k/73rd
Moonlight Mile 14k/198th
Confidence 35k/131st
Runaway Jury 98k/62nd
Finding Neverland 207k/46th
I Heart Huckabee's 60k/95th
Stranger Than Fiction 230k/34th
Mr. Magnorium's Wonder Emporium 46k/143rd
Last Chance Harvey 22k/208th
Quartet 21k/220th

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Card updated 4/13/23

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Card and vote count updated 3/25/24

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Card updated 10/30/24

(Box data found on more films)

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Best box - The Graduate (1), Kramer vs Kramer (1), Rain Man

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That's a pretty good trifecta -- the 60s, the 70s, the 80s.

I didn't realize that Midnight Cowboy was Number Two for 1969 -- behind Butch Cassidy at Number One?

And Papillon -- Hoffman with Steve McQueen -- Number Four for 1973..a very competitive year(The Exorcist and The Sting tops for the year.) I wonder what Number 3 was? I'll look it up.

Thanks for updating the card.

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πŸ‘ Yes Butch Cassidy..#1 and had the most votes for the year. 1969 Great year for film.

I enjoy reading your informative posts (former ecarl)

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Thank you!

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