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Most eccentric role?


He often plays an oddball character. Are any of them weirder than his character in Midnight Cowboy: Ratso Rizzo?

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I don't think so. That was his weirdest. Ironically it came right after The Graduate and he was briefly America's heart throb. So teen girls showed up on the Midnight Cowboy set and saw this homeless bum.
Anyway, Dustin is one of my favorite actors. It sucks that he became a victim of Me Too false accusers like many others.

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I would include his role in The Graduate as oddball, even though the character is, of course, living out the fantasy of many a young man.

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Hook was more flamboyant, maybe. Ray Babbit might not be "weirder" (I'm not sure I'd put mental health and "weird" in the same column; that seems narrow-minded), but he's certainly full of affectation.

For my money, though, it's hard to get more eccentric and odd than the cape-wearing drama critic he plays in Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events. Out of NOWHERE Dustin Freakin' Hoffman shows up wearing a cape and just watches the show. It's not that Hoffman is doing anything strange, it's just that the whole thing is so bizarre and inexplicable...

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Perhaps it's an oddity of mine, but I don't mean anything negative by weird.

So I have no problem including Ray Babbit in the potential list. I considered that character when I went with Ratso Rizzo. Both portrayals are certainly over-the-top in their own ways.

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Some people mean weird = bad, or can take it that way. I just wanted to clarify that I wasn't spitting or looking snidely down at people who are different than me.

I don't usually mean weird as inherently negative, either.

I'm not sure I'd say "over-the-top", since both felt like real people to me, but maybe that's another personal affectation. I usually only say "over the top" when I'm referring to, like, Nicholas Cage on his bad days, or Jeremy Irons in Dungeons & Dragons, or something like that.

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"over the top" can certainly have the meaning you are talking about, but I would think it clear from the context that's not what I meant.

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The context was pretty clear, yeah. I was just saying why I wasn't using the term.

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His portrayal of an existential detective (partnered with Lily Tomlin) in I Heart Huckabees comes to mind as well, although the strangeness there is so much in what he is saying rather than how he is saying it.

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Mumbles in Dick Tracy was fun to watch, but not really a tour de force role per se.

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Mumbles was hilarious.

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Yeah... Ratso is hard to beat. Lenny Bruce was somewhat eccentric too, I think!

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Roald Dahl's Esio Trot

That came to mind immediately for me. Probably one of his more obscure appearances, it's a BBC production based on the Dahl book (obviously) where he plays a retired bachelor who falls for his widowed downstairs neighbour (Judi Dench) and woos her with tortoises.

Quirky and very cute, definitely worth a watch if you can find it.

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