Been watching some stuff with these ex Scientology whistleblowers and apparently thats the dirt they have on him from when they do those e-meter sessions
Apparently he's shit with Women in general in terms of chatting them up and pulling
Could all be bullshit of course but i don't think he's gay he's a very intense man who is psychotic about his image but that is just Actors in general it's lazy to just say he's gay
That's the weird thing. I've been plugged into gay gossip networks for a very long time, and there's been NOTHING about him and other men for decades. And yet, his relationships with women have also obviously been publicity-driven "showmances" for decades.
Maybe he's asexual, maybe he's so in love with himself that he isn't attracted to other humans (autosexual?), maybe the poor Sea Org slaveys are told to do whatever he wants and keep quiet, maybe he's been chemically castrate to stop the urges, nobody knows.
He's a strange anomaly in Hollywood because he makes so much money they can't get rid of him but going by how the media make fun of him so much you know they can't stand him and begrudgingly put up with him.
That interview he did when he went on about psychiatry and Brooke Shields he actually made a lot of really fair points but the caption after was Tom Cruise crazy rant-
It wasn't at all i think deep down he probably is a decent bloke the no father thing as well would have to have had an impact on him, you see it in Sports Christiano Ronaldo is very similar to Tom Cruise he has had such a ridiculous drive to get to and stay on top to fill some void that the rest of their life suffers
I wonder as well if some of these people spend so much time in Character that they forget who the real person is and they want to be like the guy on the screen
I have no idea what's in the depth of Cruise's mind, and I don't want to know. There's something so incredibly disturbing and off-putting about him that I suspect there's something deeply wrong with him, and whatever the issue is it's made him more disturbing over time, so no, i dont share hour assumption that he's basicasly a decent guy.
But I agree that he isn't liked in Hollywood, but they aren't willing to give such a great moneymaker the boot. Notice he only makes franchise action films now, nobody is willing to throw him a different sort of film where he could stretch himself as an actor. Maybe all his feuds with the biggest power players have something to do with that...
In Curtis Armstrong's memoir, he wrote about something odd that occurred during the making of Risky Business...
He self-identified as a born-again Christian and the rumor was he had actually considered shepherding souls for a living. I could believe it. Away from the set, initially, Tom made straight arrows look like corkscrews. I would ask him at the end of the day if he would like to join us at the bar for a drink. “No,” I recall him saying, “Got an early call tomorrow. Got to work out still, study my lines. And then I like to read the Bible a little before bed.”
I laughed. He didn’t. “Ah,” I said, cutting off the laugh at the pass and nodding wisely. “A little bit of the Good Book before bedtime, eh?”
“Yeah,” he said. “Just a little at night. Keeps me on the right track, you know?”
But then, returning late one night, I found three or four young girls — late teens, I suspect — lined up in the hall outside of Tom’s room. I remember thinking, “Tom’s going to be really upset if these hot girls interfere with his Bible reading.” So I asked them, with all the stern gravitas of my 28 years, if there was something I could do to help them.
They just stared at me, and at that moment, Tom’s door opened and another girl came out, adjusting her hair and taking off down the hall, while the first girl in line slipped into Tom’s room. This was a young man who knew something about time management and understood how to successfully juggle Bible study and blow jobs. I went to bed alone that night thinking it served me right for not being religious.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/my-wild-summer-tom-cruise-women-sean-penn-making-risky-business-1014670/
That sounds like bullshit.
What man would ever have a line of girls to fuck outside his room?
Get them all in at once, fool!
Also, if there is something men are not interested in after sex is more sex. So again, the idea of a line makes zero sense unless your name is Wilt.
Not being liked in Hollywood seems to me to be a big plus.
I look at Hollywood like some of the Bill Maher Club Random stuff,
people all pretending to be chummy, hugging each other for the
PR benefit, but all fake. It makes me want to vomit in the same way
that business people all get together and talk up capitalism - because
it is how they rip all the rest of us off.
I have no idea about Tom Cruise. I find Scientology to be like a crime
syndicate and tend to believe what Leah Remini says about it. But there
are tons and tons of these little gangs, cults, groups, mafias, etc.
Not for me. I just don't think they should be interfering with the rest of
the world.
But there are tons and tons of these little gangs, cults, groups, mafias, etc.
Good for him, if he's asexual. It's better than being in-the-closet (by that I mean, that I detest homophobia, and think it's sad that anyone should feel forced to deny their sexuality), or being a selfish and self-destructive sex-addict.
Of course, being asexual doesn't exclude the possibility of sexual abuse, seeing that sexual abuse is often more about power and humiliation than it is about attraction and desire, but it certainly makes it far less likely. Men like Weinstein and Cosby, who abused women, clearly allowed themselves to be controlled by their sexual desires. No chance of that happening with an asexual individual.
That's not to say that Cruise is 100% 'normal'. He does seem to have some disturbing control freak instincts, and I instinctively distrust anything associated with Scientology, but if he is asexual, it actually makes me think he's more likely to be a reasonably safe guy behind-the-scenes.
He does seem to have some disturbing control freak instincts
Hey, I generally like him (although I did read somewhere that he was quite homophobic in his youth, but then again, so are a lot of men, and thankfully most of them grow out of it; I just hope Cruise did so too, although I do worry about the effect Scientology has on his mindset, and I didn't care for some of his statements regarding psychiatry and mental illness, which Brooke Shields, to her credit, called out).
But no man, or woman, is perfect. We all have our flaws and foibles, and I can see control-freakery being one of Cruise's.
Bronson Pinchot, one of his co-stars from Risky Business, said: "He was tense and made constant, constant unrelated homophobic comments, like, “You want some ice cream, in case there are no gay people there?” I mean, his lingo was larded with the most… There was no basis for it. It was like, “It’s a nice day, I’m glad there are no gay people standing here.” Very, very strange. Years and years later when people started to torment him with that, I used to think “God, that’s really fitting, because he tormented a lot of people as a 20-year-old.” He made such a big deal about it."
He also said: "Same thing with Eddie Murphy—I remember somebody calling and saying, “You’ll never guess who was just caught with a transvestite!” [Laughs] And I remember thinking that seemed fitting, because there are certain people in showbiz who make it an agenda, every third sentence has to have something knocking that life choice."
https://www.avclub.com/bronson-pinchot-1798218088
It's like when you get a woman who constantly makes fun of black guys, but it turns out that she is a queen of spades who is a secret card-carrying member of the BBC fan club.
As for Tom Cruise - Usually young guys who constantly make homophobic jokes tend to be in a cheerful mood; not "tense."
That's the interview I was referring to.
Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but are you doubting its veracity because 'homophobes don't tend to be tense'?
Homophobes can be tense, but a person who constantly makes homophobic jokes would at least smile if not laugh. For Tom to make those jokes and not look like he was having fun suggests that he was angry at himself.
shareTense doesn't necessarily imply 'anger' to me, but just uneasiness. You can be tense but still smiling, however it will come across as awkward and maybe a little forced.
I think Pinchot's implication was that Cruise was trying too hard to pretend to be an ultra-straight/non-gay man, contrary to the (later) rumours surrounding his sexuality. From what I gather here, Cruise isn't gay (not that it would bother me if he were), so maybe Pinchot misread things, but I don't think he was lying or making things up. At worse, he was probably making an incorrect assumption, possibly in hindsight, based on the things Cruise was saying when they worked together.
Another interpretation may be that Tom couldn't feel safe knowing that he was cast because of a gay producer who wanted to have sex with him.
When it came to casting, David Geffen told director Paul Brickman that he wanted someone who he would want to have sex with. Perhaps Tom found out that, and didn't want people thinking he was using the casting couch (although you would think that he would have been making jokes about Geffen instead of gays in general).
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shareHave your networks said anything about Hugh Jackman? I have a friend who was in The Boy from Oz who said Hugh frequently slept with a male cast member in the show.
shareHe's got lots of money and fame. He's real impotent, I tells ya!
sharehe hump rebecca de morany in 80s no chances hes important.
shareHis first ex-wife, Mimi Rogers, said: "Tom was seriously thinking of becoming a monk. At least for that period of time, it looked as though marriage wouldn't fit into his overall spiritual need. And he thought he had to be celibate to maintain the purity of his instrument. My instrument needed tuning."
sharei would take her word with pinch of salts. 2 sides to every story ect. he was probably humping many woman on the side when he with her and the thought of her old ass made him limp dick so he told her he was celibates so she go away.
shareInstrument .... yeah, that's what I call mine! ;-)
shareIn his Devil's Guide to Hollywood, Joe Eszterhas talked about gay producer David Geffen reading the script to Risky Business. David told the director: "I want you to cast someone in the role of Joel that I would want to fuck."
shareLol the OP is projecting big time, not even a fan of Cruise but he doesn't need to chat up girls at his level. And even if he did, he has more charisma in his left toe than your whole body.
shareProbably true. I bet he is a fascinating person. He sure does a lot of interesting movies. Despite that I don't much care for him, I liked Live, Die Repeat or whatever it was called, and it showed he had a great sense of self-deprecating humor. That was a good movie. And his Jack Reacher stuff is pretty good too. And Collateral where he played the bad guy. If he is a powerful micromanager, he is able to pull off a lot of excellent work - as far as Hollywood Movies go. I have no interest in the Mission Impossible stuff - to me it is brainless crap. He also is able to stay in good shape
which is admirable. Other than the external stuff I don't know anything about him.
Scientology concerns me in a negative way. I don't like it, and I don't care for people
involved in cults in general.
In Devil's Guide to Hollywood, Joe Eszterhas said a number of things about scientologists: "Studios are terrified of them because they represent a lot of big stars. Under no circumstances would I get into a creative disagreement with a Scientologist. There’s that machine called the E-meter that vets each screenplay its members are asked to star in. If that’s really true, though, I wonder how Eyes Wide Shut got past the E-meter for Tom Cruise."
shareI think the E-meter thing is a galvanic skin resistance meter or a simplified lie detector. Scientology is just weird.
shareFrom 1990 to 1998 he was under his ex's influence and far away from the church. During that period he was able to spread his acting world. After EWS, he returned the church. They broke Tom's artistic side. Now he cannot acting like before anymore.
shareTom's an oddball, but he makes money. As he reaches his dotage, I think the mystique of his personal life gets lost on younger generations.
Michael Dogass had a rumored lifestyle as a sex fiend in 70s and 80s, but his managers and his successful movies steered attention towards his critical and financial success as an actor/producer. Fast forward to today and he's primarily associated with Wall Street and being in MCU movies.
Datage? He's not that old.
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