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☝️ Pop vs. Box 👇 '81 - '13

posted 3 years ago by Redsfan001 (6217)
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Card 53

Key -

B - box office rank for year
P - current popular rank for year
* director/actor
🥇 - 1st place popular winner for year
🤔 - most obscure
⭐ - library special award

(#/149) - rank amongst 149 actors

Supporting roles included

81 Sizzle Beach USA - no data
82 Frances B89 P82
83 Stacy's Knights - no data
83 Table for Five B100 P247
83 Testament B106 P51
84 Shadows Run Black - no data
85 Fandango B185 P115
85 Silverado B25 P18
85 American Flyers B139 P128
87 The Untouchables B5 P10
87 No Way Out B29 P26
88 Bull Durham B17 P19
89 Field of Dreams B19 P6
89 The Gunrunner - no data
90 Revenge B78 P28
90 Dances with Wolves* B13 P9
91 Robin Hood B3 P9
91 JFK B17 P20
92 The Bodyguard B7 P24
93 A Perfect World B52 P53
94 Wyatt Earp 🥇 B55 P26
94 The War B86 P108
95 Waterworld B12 P31
96 Tin Cup B28 P47
97 The Postman* B93 P41
99 Message in a Bottle B43 P104
99 For the Love of the Game B58 P53
99 Play it to the Bone B135 P187
00 Thirteen Days B71 P99
01 3000 Miles to Graceland B112 P88
02 Dragonfly B88 P165
03 Open Range* B57 P27
05 The Upside of Anger B118 P210
05 Rumor Has It - no data
06 The Guardian B58 P71
07 Mr. Brooks B89 P78
08 Swing Vote 🤔 B123 P267
09 The New Daughter - no data
10 The Company Men B143 P144
13 Man of Steel B5 P16

Movies scored - 34
Box sum - 2258
Pop sum - 2613

Box avg rank - 66.41
Pop avg rank - 76.85

BA-PA = -10.42

Box top 20 - ⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾
Pop top 20 - 🌽🌽🌽🌽🌽🌽🌽🌽

Best box - Robin Hood (3)
Worst box - Fandango (185)
Best pop - Field of Dreams (6)
Worst pop - Swing Vote (267)

Pop gainer - Fandango (+70)
Pop loser - Table for Five (-147)

B+P

Best - Robin Hood (12)
Worst - Swing Vote (390)

It is natural for popular rankings to be higher due to the influx of art house, international and direct to video releases. Popular rankings are taken from IMDb and are fluid. Most box office data is taken from The Numbers website (domestic)

Scoring b-p

10+ = excellent
9 to -9 = good
-10 to -29 = avg
-30 to -49 =poor
-50 and below = very poor

Example

The Bodyguard B7 P24 = -17(avg)

Tally

Excellent (10pts each) = 9
Good (5pts each) = 11
Average (0pts each) = 8
Poor (-5pts each) = 0⭐
Very poor (-10pts each) = 6
Pop top 20 bonus (5pts each) = 8

+90+55-60+40

Mr Costner's pop/box library score:

125

[–] Redsfan001 (6217) 3 years ago

Scoring updated 4/10/22

[–] PrimeMinisterX (8857) 3 years ago

These posts are an arcane mystery to me.

[–] olioz (3846) 3 years ago

Tell me about it. I've tried many times to decipher these.

[–] PrimeMinisterX (8857) 3 years ago

I mean, they seem like something that could potentially be interesting if properly understood, and they seem like something that the poster puts a lot of time into, but apparently you need a secret key to unlock the mystery box.

[–] Redsfan001 (6217) 3 years ago

Understood, I hope I can help.

Example - 00 Thirteen Days B71 P99

Thirteen Days was released in 2000 (00) and finished 71st (B71) in box office sales for that year. The movies current popular ranking from IMDB searches for all movies released in the year 2000 is 99th (P99). This gives this movie a "score" of -28 which falls in the average range.

The theme of Pop vs. Box is how a movies popularity rises or falls compared to it's original box office rank and other movies that were released in the same year.

I hope this helps.

[–] Redsfan001 (6217) 2 years ago

Vote count / rank data

Top 6 (#of votes)

1. Man of Steel 819k
2. The Untouchables 338k
3. Dances with Wolves 297k
4. Waterworld 215k (17th)
5. Robin Hood 213k
6. J.F.K. 174k

Top 6 (vote rank for year)

1. The Untouchables (4th)
2. Man of Steel (5th)
3. Robin Hood (6th)
4. Dances with Wolves (9th)
5. J.F.K.(10th)
6. (tie) Field of Dreams (15th) (132k)
6. (tie) The Bodyguard (15th) (152k)

Bottom 5 (# of votes)

1. Stacey's Knights 464
2. Shadows Run Black 480
3. The Gunrunner 676
4. Table for Five 796
5. Sizzle Beach U.S.A. 834

Bottom 5 (vote rank for year)

1. The Gunrunner (428th)
2. Stacey's Knights (390th)
3. Shadows Run Black (381st)
4. Table for Five (297th)
5. Sizzle Beach U.S.A. (296th)

and the rest....

Frances 8k/71st
Testament 7k/83rd
Fandango 8k/106th
Silverado 45k/37th
American Flyers 6k/123rd
No Way Out 42k/40th
Bull Durham 56k/33rd
Revenge 19k/77th
A Perfect World 82k/32nd
Wyatt Earp 52k/47th
The War 13k/125th
Tin Cup 51k/57th
The Postman 75k/56th
Message in a Bottle 39k/89th
For the Love/Game 36k/94th
Play It to the Bone 12k/165th
Thirteen Days 60k/75th
3000 Miles to Graceland 47k/102nd
Dragonfly 39k/117th
Open Range 74k/77th
The Upside of Anger 22k/184th
Rumor Has It 59k/109th
The Guardian 94k/81st
Mr. Brooks 152k/62nd
Swing Vote 19k/221st
The New Daughter 15k/252nd

Date posted 1/18/23

The Company Men 45k/152nd (added 7/16/24)

Card updated 12/26/24

J.F.K. 9th vote count rank 👉 10th vote count rank

[–] Redsfan001 (6217) 7 months ago

Card and vote count updated 7/16/24

[–] Redsfan001 (6217) 2 months ago

Card /vote count data updated 12/26/24