A great actor and nice guy.
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Half-jewish, but self-identified as a Jew, because (as he said) 'It's more challenging".
There are more blue eyed Jews than you would hink. Off the top of my head:Gene Wilder (a Ginger blue eyed Jew at that!), Suzanne Pleshette, & Michelle Tratchenberg come to mind.
Well, if you ask people who are anti-Israel and pro-Palestine, chances are they'll tell you that Jews are white European (modern-day) colonial settlers.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20210123-why-israel-is-a-settler-colony/
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2021-07-05/ty-article-opinion/is-israel-really-a-settler-colonial-state/0000017f-f46f-d497-a1ff-f6ef21fc0000
DNA results of Ashkenazi Jews state 100% European. Palestine is in Asia, not Europe.
Judaism was once a proselytizing religion similar to Islam and Christianity in which mass conversions took place. Those converts didn't live in Palestine.
Ironically, most Jews living in Jerusalem after the temple was destroyed likely moved to nearby villages staying in Palestine. Most converted to Christianity, then Islam.
The irony is that the descendants of the original Jerusalem Jews are being ethnic-cleansed, killed and oppressed likely by later European converts to Judaism. God must weep.
No, Ashkenazic Jews are not 100% European.
They do have significant European mtDNA (matrilineal descent). This means that at some point in history, Jewish men from the Levant who came to Europe took native European women as wives and the women were converted to Judaism. Their patrilinear descent is for the most part Middle Eastern from the Levant. The result is that genetically, Ashkenazis are very similar to Sicilians who coincidentally were conquered by Arabs/Moors in history.
A substantial prehistoric European ancestry amongst Ashkenazi maternal lineages
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3543
The Ashkenazim therefore resemble Jewish communities in Eastern Africa and India, and possibly also others across the Near East, Caucasus and Central Asia, which also carry a substantial fraction of maternal lineages from their ‘host’ communities11,25. Despite widely differing interpretations of autosomal data, these results in fact fit well with genome-wide studies, which imply a significant European component, with particularly close relationships to Italians3,4,6,7. As might be expected from the autosomal picture, Y-chromosome studies generally show the opposite trend to mtDNA (with a predominantly Near Eastern source) with the exception of the large fraction of European ancestry seen in Ashkenazi Levites22.share
Y chromosome variation in the I&P Arabs was compared to that of Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews, and to that of North Welsh individuals. At the haplogroup level, defined by the binary polymorphisms only, the Y chromosome distribution in Arabs and Jews was similar but not identical. At the haplotype level, determined by both binary and microsatellite markers, a more detailed pattern was observed. Single-step micro-satellite networks of Arab and Jewish haplotypes revealed a common pool for a large portion of Y chromosomes, suggesting a relatively recent common ancestry.
A sample of 526 Y chromosomes representing six Middle Eastern populations (Ashkenazi, Sephardic, and Kurdish Jews from Israel; Muslim Kurds; Muslim Arabs from Israel and the Palestinian Authority Area; and Bedouin from the Negev) was analyzed for 13 binary polymorphisms and six microsatellite loci. The investigation of the genetic relationship among three Jewish communities revealed that Kurdish and Sephardic Jews were indistinguishable from one another, whereas both differed slightly, yet significantly, from Ashkenazi Jews. The differences among Ashkenazim may be a result of low-level gene flow from European populations and/or genetic drift during isolation.
That's a lot of nonsensical babel. Anybody can take a DNA test and see the results for themselves. An Ashkenazi Jewish person results are usually 100% European like this guy:
"100% Ashkenzi. According to Ancestry.com, there was no need to discern whether I was Russian, Polish, Lithuanian, Ukranian or some other nationality within that general geographic region. I am simply a 100% Ashkenazi Jew from Eastern Europe."
https://www.kveller.com/im-an-ashkenazi-jew-what-more-might-my-dna-hold/
The original Zionists and present Israeli leaders came mainly from Eastern Europe with Polish, Russian and Ukrainian names which they changed to Hebrew to pretend they were Middle Eastern. Netanyahu's real name is Mileikowsky and his family is Polish.
It's illegal to take DNA tests in Israel because it would prove they have no history in the region.
Those studies I posted are conducted with DNA tests.
That Ashkenazis came from Slavic countries didn't mean they were ethnic Poles, Russians and Ukranians. This is also what the author of your quote says.
The reason they get 100% Ashkenazi on 23andme, Ancestry and other DNA companies is because they're heavily inbred. It's why Ashkenazi Jewish women have a high risk of breast cancer for example.
Ashkenazi Jews descend from 350 people, study finds
https://www.timesofisrael.com/ashkenazi-jews-descend-from-350-people-study-finds/
My point is that Ashkenazi Jews are from Europe, not Palestine. They are not true Semitic people.
This young Ashkenazi Jewish man took a DNA test and posted his results on Youtube. If you look on top in the blue area, it says 99.9% European.
https://youtu.be/kxFKbfABv7M?si=3p3FHqAM3XIWCJw0&t=54
Historically, Palestine was very ethnically diverse with Arabs, Greeks, Romans, Jews, Africans, Persians, etc.. Their DNA reflects that. These Palestinians took DNA tests.
The Afro-Palestinian has a Nigerian dad and Palestinian mom. He's 50.1% Nigerian (dad). His mom's side: 21% Middle East, 10.6% Shephardic Jewish North African, 4.3% Ashkenazi Jewish, 5.8% West Asian, 3.2% Greek, 0.8% Italian.
https://youtu.be/eCN5IgaJV6Y?si=sRcJGuFOV5R2BYMH&t=477
The woman is Venezuelan/Palestinian. She's 41% Middle Eastern, 17% Italian/Greece, 13% Spanish/Portuguese, 11% African (north, west, east), 4% Ashkenazi Jewish, 12% Native-American
https://youtu.be/wxjXJmMxqBk?si=-NcsbIBwPmRMGfA8&t=130
She's from Lebanon. I ran out of Palestinians.: 27.3% Mizrahi Jewish and 15.3% Shephardic Jewish, 14% Italian...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb5GTsFJqGs
Palestinians are from the region. And they have some Jewish ancestry.
In one of the rare instances, Keelai is right here and I agree with him.
The Ashkenazi Jewish community is so thoroughly European in culture and physical appearance that most people looking at a picture of a Semitic Jew would probably confuse them as an Arab or Persian where on the other hand there is virtually nothing visually apparent separating Ashkenazi apart from others of European descent and you'd have a difficult time distinguishing between the two.
That's a truth with some modification. It is true that Ashkenazis are white compared to East (Mizrahi) Jews, but there are some stereotypical Ashkenazi features that make them stand out from gentile Europeans.
The movie Europa Europa (1990) is about a Jew who can hide from the Nazis because he passes for a German. Those who looked "stereotypically Jewish" like f.e. the porn star Abella Danger (who is Ashkenazi) would probably not be as lucky.
Indoctrinating the Youth - Europa Europa
https://youtube.com/watch?v=XAYsKRgnB6M
Fig. 2 in the first link and Fig. 3 in the second are examples of Ashkenazis who could not pass for Europeans. Then there are also examples of those who can.
https://archive.org/details/racesofeurope031695mbp/page/n502/mode/1up
https://archive.org/details/racesofeurope031695mbp/page/n504/mode/1up
BTW, Persians are not Semites.
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That's because 23andme and the likes only go back where one's ancestors lived within the past 500 years or so, and do not pick up on anything ancient. It's better to use GEDMatch calculators.
Here's a pretty typical Ashkenazi:
Eurogenes K13share
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 34.78
2 North_Atlantic 18.15
3 West_Med 17.52
4 Baltic 10.14
5 West_Asian 8.86
6 Red_Sea 6.11
7 South_Asian 1.49
8 Amerindian 1.41
9 Northeast_African 0.93
10 Oceanian 0.41
11 Sub-Saharan 0.2
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi 3.38
2 East_Sicilian 7.3
3 West_Sicilian 8.31
4 Central_Greek 8.56
5 South_Italian 8.69
6 Italian_Jewish 8.77
7 Sephardic_Jewish 9.53
8 Italian_Abruzzo 9.68
9 Algerian_Jewish 9.89
10 Greek_Thessaly 10.75
11 Tunisian_Jewish 12.46
12 Libyan_Jewish 13.06
13 Tuscan 13.29
14 Cyprian 17.25
15 Bulgarian 18.56
16 North_Italian 19.51
17 Lebanese_Muslim 20.07
18 Romanian 20.41
19 Syrian 20.91
20 Palestinian 21.88
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
1 95.4% Ashkenazi + 4.6% Southeast_English @2.77
2 95.8% Ashkenazi + 4.2% West_Scottish @2.79
3 95.7% Ashkenazi + 4.3% Southwest_English @2.81
4 95.8% Ashkenazi + 4.2% Irish @2.82
5 95.8% Ashkenazi + 4.2% Orcadian @2.82
6 94.3% Ashkenazi + 5.7% French @2.82
7 95.7% Ashkenazi + 4.3% Danish @2.83
8 95.8% Ashkenazi + 4.2% North_Dutch @2.83
9 96% Ashkenazi + 4% Norwegian @2.85
10 94% Ashkenazi + 6% Spanish_Valencia @2.87
11 93.9% Ashkenazi + 6.1% Spanish_Murcia @2.87
12 94.9% Ashkenazi + 5.1% West_German @2.87
13 95.1% Ashkenazi + 4.9% South_Dutch @2.87
14 95.8% Ashkenazi + 4.2% North_German @2.88
15 94.2% Ashkenazi + 5.8% Spanish_Cataluna @2.88
16 94.2% Ashkenazi + 5.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @2.88
17 93.8% Ashkenazi + 6.2% Portuguese @2.88
18 94.9% Ashkenazi + 5.1% Spanish_Aragon @2.9
19 96.2% Ashkenazi + 3.8% Swedish @2.91
20 94% Ashkenazi + 6% Spanish_Extremadura @2.93
200 years. Not 500.
Your explanation doesn't hold water. DNA will still reflect what you are no matter the time frame.
Ashkenazi who take the DNA test typically have European as their only result whereas Palestinian DNA results reflect their ties to the region. Greeks and Romans ruled and lived in Palestine many centuries ago, but their DNA still shows up in Palestinian DNA. Not Ashkenazi DNA.
The abstract is irrelevant. I'm talking about actual individuals who take the test.
To be clear, I'm not discussing Mizrahi or other Jews who may have genetic ties to the area since they're not in the leadership nor original colonizers. My criticism is about foreigners aka: Ashkenazi cruelty against the indigenous population. That cannot be justified. I'll include the British who started this mess and the Americans who perpetuate it.
It's not just my explanation. It's also the explanation of 23andme themselves.
While most people with Ashkenazi ancestry trace their DNA to Eastern and Central Europe, THEY ARE OFTEN MORE GENETICALLY LIKE OTHER JEWISH POPULATIONS — such as Sephardic Jews or Jewish groups with roots in Iran, Iraq, or Syria — THAN OTHER EUROPEANS.
People with European ancestry are genetically distinct from those of Asian or African descent. What is less obvious is that genetic variation also exists within European groups.
Scientists think that, because of this bottleneck, the 10 million Ashkenazi Jews who are alive today have descended from just a few hundred founding individuals. Interestingly, their modern descendants remain genetically more similar to other Jewish populations than their European neighbors. In the twentieth century, amidst two World Wars and the Holocaust, and after the war years, many Ashkenazi Jews immigrated to what is now Israel or to the Americas in search of greater cultural and religious acceptance. Today, over five million ethnic Ashkenazi Jews live in the U.S.
"Scientists think"
Think is an opinion, therefore I don't care.
Another Askenazi Jewish man's DNA results. Youtuber David Packman results are 100% European. Not Middle East.
https://youtu.be/5Gk9o_mywhU?si=YCybnYdeHQQQgagE&t=147
"not Ashkenazim"
They are second-class citizens with no real power as I already stated.
No point in continuing our debate. Ashkenazi are clearly European - not Middle Eastern. Their DNA results prove that.
They are second-class citizens with no real power as I already stated.
Nonsense. There is a growing rate of intermarriage between Ashkenazis and other Jewish groups. Rebecca Bar Sef is half Lithuanian (Ashkenazi) and half Georgian (Mizrahi) Jewish.
https://youtube.com/@rebeccabarsef
No, that's right. There is no point in continuing our debate. I know you're too stubborn to ever absorb the facts I've posted. It's kind of like if I said that I had an apple and that if I dropped it, it's going to fall and you'd say no, it won't. That is what "debating" you feels like here.
Now, you've referred to Ancestry.com yourself. I'll end with quoting their own words.
The people living in the European Jewish region are much less admixed than most other regions, which means that when creating ethnicity estimates for people native to this area, WE RARELY SEE SIMILARITIES TO DNA PROFILES FROM OTHER NEARBY REGIONS. We’ve found that approximately 96% of the typical native’s DNA comes from this region. We have used our reference panel to build a European Jewish genetic profile. The blue chart above shows examples of ethnicity estimates for people native to this region. For European Jewish, THERE IS VERY LITTLE (IF ANY) DNA SHARED WITH NEIGHBORING REGIONS. However, there are some exceptions—a small minority of people’s DNA shows only 65% similarity to this profile. Since approximately 96% of the typical native’s DNA comes from this region, 4% is similar to other regions, such as the Italy/Greece region.
Your links are opinion pieces from unknown bloggers, therefore irrelevant. One of them is referencing the Bible, a mythology book.
Europeans rule Israel (Knesset; Herzog; Netanyahu). Photo:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/Isaac_Herzog_in_Beit_HaNassi%2C_December_2022_%28ABG_0348%29.jpg
Thousands of Yemeni-Israeli babies kidnapped by Israel government and given to European Jews to raise for Westernization:
"... neglect and marginalization with which many Muslim-world Jewish immigrants were greeted when they arrived in an Israel controlled at the time by an Ashkenazi Jewish elite."
https://www.timesofisrael.com/government-set-to-express-regret-compensate-for-disappeared-yemenite-children/
Israel gave birth control to Ethiopian Jews without their consent to limit black population.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-gave-birth-control-to-ethiopian-jews-without-their-consent-8468800.html
"European Jews were given better housing in more desirable cities. That’s because, in the eyes of the ruling Ashkenazi elite, their fellow European Jews were already civilized, while Mizrahi Jews were primitives..."
Excellent history about Mizrahi:
https://www.vox.com/world-politics/24122304/israel-hamas-war-gaza-palestine-arab-jews-mizrahi-solidarity
10 most racist countries. Israel #5.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/slideshows/worst-countries-for-racial-equity?onepage
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Goldie Hawn is also half Jewish.
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The most photogenic couple in cinematic history had to be Newman and Taylor in "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof". The first time I watched for the story. The second time to admire their beauty. Her eyes were violet.
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