The gay community


This is a serious question.
I don't know a lot about JG, but it seems she was not at all gay, although apparently her father was. I know she at times liked to wear slacks and wore her hair short, but how did the phenomenon of the gay community embracing her begin? During the 80s, it seemed very obvious gay people thought she was tops. And her sad demise doesn't seem like anything to admire either. I'm not knocking her in saying that, I have nothing but compassion for her, but I wouldn't adopt Monty Clift as a role model.
So how / why did this come about?

I'm not a woman much less Deanna Durbin, but the old-time glam-shot appeals to me.

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On Christmas Eve?????

Well, OK, the Judy as a gay icon thing is not something I really think about. I believe it has actually made her a joke to some people.

I could give you a proper answer, but I'm sure others will step in. The truth is that I don't think about it. It really does mean little to me.

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Well, thanks for the sort of response. I didn't factor in the holiday, that's true.
I'm not even sure it's still relevant, but I thought maybe she was closeted or something, but when I read her IMDB bio, she seemed rather voracious when it came to men.
I'm hoping someone has a thoughtful response, but thanks for showing an interest.
Hope you have a Merry Christmas.

I'm not a woman much less Deanna Durbin, but the old-time glam-shot appeals to me.

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I'm hoping someone has a thoughtful response, but thanks for showing an interest.
Serious response. Take into consideration that the following were the attitudes in 1967, and a lot has changed since then. But still, I think there is an element of truth:

From Wiki:

Gay identification with Garland as a tragic figure was being discussed as early as 1967. Time Magazine reviewed Garland's 1967 Palace Theatre engagement in New York City, and wrote that a "disproportionate part of her nightly claque seems to be homosexual." The review goes on to say that "[t]he boys in the tight trousers" (a phrase Time repeatedly used to describe gay men) would "roll their eyes, tear at their hair and practically levitate from their seats" during Garland's performances.[4]

Time tried to explain Garland's appeal to the homosexual. Psychiatrists thought that "the attraction [to Garland] might be made considerably stronger by the fact that she has survived so many problems; homosexuals identify with that kind of hysteria". They speculated that "Judy was beaten up by life, embattled, and ultimately had to become more masculine. She has the power that homosexuals would like to have, and they attempt to attain it by idolizing her."[4]

William Goldman wrote in Esquire magazine about the same Palace engagement. He too disparages the gay men in attendance. He dismisses them as "fags" who "flit by" chattering inanely. He also advances the tragic figure concept. He suggests that "if [homosexuals] have an enemy, it is age. And Garland is youth, perennially, over the rainbow." He wrote, "Homosexuals tend to identify with suffering. They are a persecuted group and they understand suffering. And so does Garland. She's been through the fire and lived – all the drinking and divorcing, all the pills and all the men, all the poundage come and gone – brothers and sisters, she knows."[5]
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I actually remember that 1967 Time Magazine article.
(I'm older than dirt!) 

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"homosexuals identify with that kind of hysteria." Wow. Stereotype much? Yes, LGBT people understand suffering, especially in that time period, but there's more to it than just that.

No, Judy was not a lesbian, not even bi. She was, however, drawn to gay men and married a least at least one (Vincente Minelli) and maybe more. She also, at a time when few others, in any industry, did, she defended her gay audiences. She didn't deny or disparage them, but said, "I don't care. I sing for people!" when asked about them. If anyone tried to speak badly about her fans, her response was simply, "I've been treated brutally by the press and I'll be damned if I'll have my audience mistreated."

In a nutshell, the LGBT community loves Judy because she loved us first. She welcomed us when not a lot of people did.

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Rock Hudson would make the best role model.

And Judy married 3 homosexuals; Vincente Minnelli, Mark Herron, and Mickey Deans.

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"homosexuals identify with that kind of hysteria." Wow. Stereotype much?
As I pointed out, that article is 50 years old. Attitudes have changed since then, and people have become more enlightened.

Thank you for your input.

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