Yes it was 65 years ago, but did Kirk do what some have accused him of? I know he's a great actor, but so was Cosby.
shareI whole heartedly believe he didn't. He wasn't even accused.
Lana Wood claims that Natalie Wood was raped by a popular actor and refuses to release the name because the actor was still alive and she doesn't want to be sued for slander. Because Kirk Douglas was still alive and few of his contemporaries were, some have assumed it was him.
No, that is not why people assume it was him.
They assumed it was him because Lana Wood gave details that point that he was the one. One of the details is that she had to sit next to him at some kind of televised event next to the rapist when she was co-starring with him in a movie. Years and years after she said this, a rare clip from a televised event with the both of them together showed up on YouTube. There were also some other details, too, about how the actor was of Russian origin like her.
It's all circumstantial, of course, and there's no way of knowing whether the rumor was true. But I think if it were true, that her sister should've just come out and said it instead of being coy.
What a liar. What do you mean he wasn't accused? Several celebs have accused him.
shareIf you believe Lana, who also accused Robert Wagner of killing Natalie. Most likely she's a Me Too conspiracy theorist.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/natalie-wood-assaulted-kirk-douglas-140236012.html
> If you believe Lana, who also accused Robert Wagner of killing Natalie.
If's are usually followed by then in a complete thought ... so what is the then part?
>she's a Me Too conspiracy theorist
WTF is that?
Me Tooers often make up fake stories to ride with the tide. They believe men in power (usually minorities) are all rapists.
Anyway Kirk taught Natalie how to be a woman. It was her greatest performance!
It is clearly in the wording. Think about it for a minute.
shareMore like she's a pay-me-now theorist. She's trying to sell a book. She'll say anything to get people to buy it.
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I would say it's more to do with Karma. Anything you do comes back to you. I don't think longevity equates to innocence. But let's say Kirk is "guilty". In the context of the time he did nothing wrong; just used a casting couch for a starlet like Hollywood has done millions of times before.
shareFrom what I have read about Natalie Wood's alleged rape over the years ( which might be true, half-true or untrue ) I have formed my own idea about what may have happened.
Someone said that Natalie's mother was pimping her out to influential people in Hollywood for acting parts. Kirk Douglas may have been one of those influential people. Kirk Douglas described himself as a son-of-a-bitch and he may have been rough with Natalie. I read that Natalie needed to go to hospital for serious injuries sustained during the alleged rape. I also read that her mother and little sister Lana were waiting in a car at the Chateau Marmont Hotel ( I think it was said ) for Natalie to return after meeting Douglas, which she did so the story goes. So if she made her own way down to the car she couldn't have been that seriously injured.
So if Kirk Douglas did sexually assault Natalie Wood it seems he may have used her badly, hurt her, and treated her like a piece of trash. But she went there knowing she would have sex with him. If Douglas was guilty he should have been punished for it, one way or the other. In any case if that is what happened no-one comes out of it smelling like roses that's for sure, except Lana of course who would have only been around eight years old at the time.
Well the fact that Lana has not one, but two questionable stories, the other that Robert Wagner killed Natalie, I wouldn't put much credence in her.
shareNotwithstanding her credibility problems the fact that she was Natalie's sister means that she has a good chance of knowing what happened compared to you or I who just have to make a guess.
Sure, she has a better chance of knowing than I do. But she also has a chance of not knowing anything. I don't know about every sexual encounter my brother has had. She might be (and probably is) lying. Her life has not gone well, and she is desperate for attention.
shareLana Wood is a pathetic attention whore who has never got over the fact that her career went nowhere, and what little there was of it was based primarily on a spectacular rack, which, of course, is now dangling somewhere around her ample waist. She squeezed as much mileage as she could out of shitting on Robert Wagner, and since that died on the vine long ago, now she's desperately clawing for another fifteen minutes by dumping on Kirk Douglas. Her famous sister's alleged victimhood has provided her with a means of raking in occasional cash and nutcase notoriety for at least thirty years.
shareExactly
shareThere will never be any proof one way or another. Natalie died decades ago, and didn't leave any posthumous memoirs, so if the rape happened it happened in private, and nobody knew anything except what Natalie told them. Well, the alleged rapist knew, but rapists don't tell the world!
So, for the last forty years or so, there has been no information available except what Natalie told Lana, and what Lana told the world in bits and pieces and hints. And the fact that everyone who ever had to deal with Kirk Douglas thought he was a raging asshole. So, all I can say is that it could have happened, and I wouldn't put it past Douglas.
Agree.
As much as I never liked Douglas, I also think it's horrible to be accused of something that's quite a big more than just being the raging asshole he was - by his own accounts. The anecdotal evidence strongly suggests Douglas is the bastard that raped Natalie, but if Lana took a lie detector test that backed up her story, I'd be on board (and no, I wouldn't accept a polygraph as evidence in a trial).
Not only is polygraph evidence not accepted in trials, neither is second-hand evidence or "hearsay". If Lana is somehow proven 100% right, then she's only right that Natalie *told her* that she'd been raped by Douglas, there's no proof that Natalie was telling the truth.
It's all very sad, but I don't see why Douglas's reputation shouldn't suffer. The man was a raging asshole by his own admission, why shouldn't his reputation suffer, he undoubtedly got away with horrible shit that was kept out of the press.