Could they generally be considered social/economic parasites, if not biological ones?
I'm not making any assertion. Just asking a question based on a conversation I had today. My colleague argued that since women typically view men as beings whose responsibility is to "provide", their perception of males is akin to how a parasitic organism views its host.
Well how about this.....
Yeah, some of them are, plenty of men are too.
The key is to be able to sniff out the parasite before said parasite takes advantage of you.
The ones that just want a man to pay for everything while they contribute nothing, yes absolutely.
If you are talking about traditional gender roles, than no, I believe it’s a symbiotic relationship.
Not parasites, but some Western women enjoy the fruits of men's labour and innovations over the centuries without gratitude while also blaming men for everything that's wrong in the world and demanding special treatment. Human societies are gynocentric, and feminists have exploited that past the point of reason or proportion.
Over the courses of their lifetimes, men are net contributors to the state and women are net beneficiaries, in aggregate. The state has in effect become a means of transferring wealth from men to women. And yet all we hear about is the so-called pay gap, the glass ceiling, mansplaining, etc.
It's still not possible to have a rational and informed conversation about the privileges that women sometimes enjoy over men or the ways in which men have suffered from the entry of women into areas that were previously male-dominated. That's partly because it's very easy to shame men by claiming that certain behaviours or characteristics are unmanly, and because society has accepted female victimhood as axiomatic. Feminism is one of the dominant ideologies in modern Western culture, but we have to pretend to live in a misogyny-saturated patriarchy.
I'm actually in favour of equality and women holding positions of responsibility if it's what they want, as I think it's the only morally defensible position, but people just aren't honest about the trade-offs involved in that, and the ways in which men and women differ.
YOUR POSTS STINK OF FRUSTRATION AND DORITOS.
shareYou know… I’ve been on the internet a long time, and I predict that this thread will go well. No drama shall ensue here, no sir.
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not ONE OF YOU called him an "Incel" yet??
I'm so very dissapointed in you. :)
No, but on topic, probably, but is that wrong? I mean, other than WRONG as in it doesn't fit TODAY'S twisted new wave feminist narative that seems to be making everyone pretty unhappy overall.
IE saying it using a "derogatory" term, even if it can describe some of this perfectly well. We live in a world where REALITY is triggering and offensive, when it simply is what it is. And sexually lost snowflakes don't know what else to do but cry and wave their cancel culture flag at non conformists.
A large number of wondeful women out there are very happy and complacent being cared for... but you never hear from them because that is not something negative to go online and cry about. Too busy living happy to waste their time. A silent majority. And men are happy to PROVIDE also.
It's true about the happiness. American women have become less and less happy since the 1970s, and are now less happy than men. Girls' mental issues are at a record high. I think women were sold the lie that work would set them free (excuse the reference).
A lot of the issues with feminism are to do with class. Prominent early feminists were wealthy, upper class women, so they distained motherhood, as they had nannies and governesses to do all that for them. To them, work meant editing a literary magazine or lecturing at an art college, not stacking shelves or cleaning. The pro-work, pro-productivity aspect of feminist thought perfectly aligned with the needs of enterprise, and the entry of large numbers of women into the workplace had the desired effect of devaluing labour with respect to capital. Feminists didn't care that there was a capitalist hierarchy - they just wanted to displace men at the top of it. It was a recipe for unhappiness on all sides.
A large number of wondeful women out there are very happy and complacent being cared for... but you never hear from them because that is not something negative to go online and cry about. Too busy living happy to waste their time. A silent majority. And men are happy to PROVIDE also.
where is your reply to the original poster? I can't seem to find it...
share🙄 right on cue.
Are you salty that someone beat you to it this time? Never mind, you know what they say, a grievance shared is a grievance halved.
I’ve noticed some fantastic new female forum members lately. Funny, intelligent, interesting people who could potentially add some spark to this place. It would be so nice if we didn’t act like this forum is a smelly locker room where disgruntled men gather to complain about everything wrong with modern women. Who knows, if we don’t chase them off some of us may learn something from them, start shifting our opinions and stop promoting the idea that women are anything but complex individuals with a wide range of personalities, goals and motivations.