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Isn't the moon proof of a God?


The moon is needed to maintain life as we know it.

Without the moon:

The earth would flood
Night time would be pitch black
The earth would spin faster, creating shorter days

Pretty convenient "fluke" that a moon magically formed to work as a regulator of spinning and tides and provide a night light.

Discuss.

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Existence itself is proof of the existence of something that we can't even come close to comprehending, and that something might as well be God.

If ever there were nothing, then there would be nothing forever, because something can't ever arise from nothing. That means that something has always existed, but that's impossible from our perspective, because, for example, where did motion come from? If we suppose that matter in our universe has always existed and has always been in motion, then you have a causality problem, i.e., motion without an ultimate cause, and you also have the problem that all motion should have ceased long ago, because it's had an infinitely long time to do so (perpetual motion is impossible according to the laws of physics).

So there's no natural explanation for existence that's scientifically possible, which only leaves the supernatural (God, for example). Even the much ballyhooed "big bang" conjectural narrative has no explanation for how the alleged "singularity" came into existence, and that's a rather critical thing to simply ignore.

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The is a decent argument. I suspect, though, it reflects a strong bias in human reason which has always relied upon induction/deduction based upon causal relations. Without them, we have no opposable thumb, cognitively.

At any rate, however the universe originated, or at any infinite remove from it, there is no implication of a knowable personality we would have resort to.

So even if we satisfy ourselves about some primeval creator, that doesn't buy us heaven.

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the moon is just one piece to the puzzle. you also need jupiter to "eat" meteroids, so earth isnt nuked all the time. the sun needs an exact size and so on and so forth. we dont know all the variables.

its quite possible the chances for intelligent life in the universe is one to infinity, which means we are alone.

it doesnt prove any god, but there is certainly a niche he might exist in.

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Right, many factors. The type of sun, habitable zone, geologically active w/ molten core producing magnetosphere, water bearing, relatively debris free neighborhood.

Otoh, Jupiter/Saturn had something to do with the creation of the asteroid belt. But your point stands - Jupiter is indeed an effective blocker/deflector. The proof is cenozoic life on earth, which wouldn't withstand massive impacts.

The prospects for intelligent life in the universe being a one-off is vanishingly improbable. There is nothing more rare than a singleton, and as such we should be deeply skeptical of any such claims. We are left to speculate how rare we may be, which leaves a lot of room. I suspect that the prospect of intelligent life tracks extremely closely to the prospect for animal life, given the history on Earth - where that process was 2Ga in the making, prior to the whole of animal development under 1Ga. i.e. Microbial life - rare, Animal life - far more rare.

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Absolutely ! The fact that the moon is made of green cheese is a dead giveaway !

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Mars's moons are made from potatoes.

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You look around the universe that is the norm, not humans doing shit on tik tok

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The moon was a fortuitous event which has played its role in making animal life possible on planet earth, mainly by stabilizing the Earth's orbital axis, creating long-term habitat stability. The tidal wet-dry cycles may have been instrumental in the advent of life.

Formation of the moon :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFB4-wZLZ1I

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I probably shouldn't participate since people tend to get mad at me for saying this. But I believe in God and his son Jesus who died on the cross for our sins, and if I had a time machine I would take every nonbeliever back in time to 6billion years ago to prove there's a God. But of course there will never be such a thing as a time machine.

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That's good of you to want to show people evidence. God could easily let everyone know he exists if he were real though.

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he showed us evidence in jesus christ. but he wont spam him all the time to make every moron a believer. its just 2000 something years ago. pretty short considering the whole timeframe. we barely missed him. humans also have an organ to detect him, its called the heart. its not his fault yours is blind or underdeveloped.

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Well, what a surprise, another Christ like Christian bashes me. What a dick.

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get healthy brother

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Brother? You've talked to me like absolute shit on your boot and then you call me brother?

It's really sad, Jesus was such a great example of kindness and love, yet his followers turned out to be some of the biggest jerks imaginable. YOU need to get healthy.

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lol. youre lost. thats fine. continue living a horrible life.

besides. the love of jesus was not some unconditional bullshit love you seem to expect. thats satans love. jesus had a harsh teaching love that made people uncomfortable.

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You were pretty sarcastic too in your original post though.

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I don't know if you are replying to 'me' but I wasn't being sarcastic.

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Then why is Jesus always taking selfies on our toasters if he ain't into self-promoting?

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lol Love that!

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Here's the thing. There is a mystery at the heart of things. Why is there something rather than nothing ? The trouble is that no-one knows the answer to that question, or if they do they are keeping it to themselves.

So there might be a God who made everything but not necessarily. For example you might then ask well who made God ? The standard answer is that God has always existed. But then if God has always existed then perhaps the Universe has always existed and didn't need a God to create it. As I said it's a mystery which is why I'm an agnostic because I don't know.

As for the way the Universe seems to be "calibrated" for life that is looking at things back to front. It makes more sense to think of life calibrating itself over vast stretches of time to fit the Universe.



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We know that energy is eternal as in that it can neither be created or destroyed so I was taught that there was never 'nothing' because there has always been energy and energy creates matter.

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You do realise that the total net energy in the Universe is zero right !?

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I've heard that hypothesis but I gotta say, I don't understand it very well. If you could give it a shot I'd appreciate it.

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This is almost a chicken/egg question. The moon created the possibility of life.

It has nothing to do with God necessarily.

Without a moon there would be no life on earth as we know it.

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