"Trans woman allegedly forced to remove makeup for driver's license photo"
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1085641
Geez, what a "victim". First world problems.
"The whole thing was terrible and traumatic" 🤣
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1085641
Geez, what a "victim". First world problems.
"The whole thing was terrible and traumatic" 🤣
Seems unnecessary. I suspect that policy will change soon.
shareThis DUDE was being overly dramatic and exaggerating.
shareMost people are.
sharePlease put hand sanitizer on your eyelids and wipe it off with a cloth and see how that makes you feel.
shareWhy ?
Because it has a high alcohol content and most say avoid contact with eyes as it can irritate or damage them, not to mention what it can do to the skin.
shareWell that sounds like a very good argument for not doing it then.
I have cleaned my face with rubbing alcohol many times. No biggie.
shareGood for you. Were you removing mascara?
shareNo. General grime usually related to auto mechanics.
shareYeah, big difference
shareLook, I don't see why they made it take off it's makeup. I'm just saying that cleaning your face with alcohol is no big deal. I'm sure the weren't demanding it got every particle of mascara off.
shareAnd I'm saying that taking off eye make up with alcohol isn't good. There is a reason why we have separate eye make up removers. The lids are delicate, and mascara (especially if that shit is waterproof) is a bitch to get off.
Now, seeing that you have referred to the person being discussed as "it". I have nothing else to say to you.
I have no idea whether it's a he, a she or any other of the 31 flavors and I don't care. If I call it by the incorrect pronoun that would be "insensitive", so 'it' is safe, for me.
shareOkay, you made me a liar. I have something else to say.
"they" is a safe pronoun if you aren't sure. It's not radical, it's not asking you to do something you haven't done before without even thinking about. We use they for single individuals all the time.
I'll try and keep that in mind, however, often times when I hear "they" in this sort of context, it sounds as if more than one person is being talked about.
shareHere is an example which might help of using they/their to refer to a single person.
Just found a wallet on a ground at Macy's . Found the cashier and together we tracked down the owner. They were so happy that I returned their wallet that they tried offering me cash. Of course I refused bc it's not their fault that they lost their wallet.
"When asked about the guitarist's main influence, they said Eddie Van Halen really inspired them."
Sounds ambiguous and awkward.
I agree. I actually support the idea of a non-binary identity, because people have so many silly ideas about what men or women should be, and I totally support anyone's right to show whatever face they want to the world and to form their self-image without reference to society's silly ideas about sex, but...
I can't fully support any cause that abuses the English language so badly! Using "they" and "their" creates nightmares of syntax!
Maybe hysterical people shouldn't get a driver's licence in the first place.
These are sick people with mental problems. It's disgusting how society bends over backwards over them.
shareIm not picking a fight here Wolf but it costs us nothing to allow them their space. We don’t need to engage with them and they generally seem to stay in their own lane. I won’t pretend to know why a man feels like he’s a woman or vice versa but if the majority lays off the minority they might feel safer. That life can’t be easy.
I vote we just leave them gays and trans people alone, they seem like a harmless bunch and it’s not our business what they do anyway👍
"I've met a ton of straight tough guy assholes over the years, I've busted every one of my knuckles on their skulls..."
Of course you have, oh street-wise, hyperbolic and bragging one. (eye-roll)
I actually edited that post prior to your response because I felt I went a bit off topic. My point was gay and trans types are generally not problem causers, they have their own groups they are involved with. It’s ‘macho-man’ tough guy sorts that are way more annoying and cause more damage in a social setting…like at a bar or restaurant.
Nice stab at starting a useless argument though👍
"It's 'macho-man' tough guy sorts that are way more annoying..."
Exactly how you came across in your initial post, which is why I guess, you really felt a need to edit it out. (eye-roll)
I have nothing against gays.
shareI agree with this, it’s just best to let it go…let them have their fun.
It’s not like you wake up in bed with your wife or best gal and some gay dude snuck in there during the prior evening and is sleeping between you… THAT would be pretty damned alarming LOL!
“It’s not like you wake up in bed with your wife or best gal and some gay dude snuck in there during the prior evening and is sleeping between you”
Wait! What? This is a thing now? 😳
You never heard of The Sleepover Bandit?
He breaks in, has a lie down and then makes off with your favorite blanket and pillow…the guy is a fiend!
He’s wanted dead or
alive in twelve States.
"I have nothing against gays."
Your nose grew 2 inches...
It has gained a level.
Congratulations!!
Why on Earth should they ask that? Do they ask all women to remove theirs?
And I ask this as a purely practical question, not a political one. Women don't remove makeup for official photos because they're expected to wear makeup in public, and their license needs to match their usual public face as much as possible, to simplify the process of legal identification. So if a biological man plans to spend the foreseeable future wearing makeup in public, shouldn't their drivers license photo include the sort of makeup that will be on during traffic stops and when boarding airplanes?
This. A big part of why I support trans gender people is because they are "right" in the sense that what a person chooses to present as has nothing to do with their genitals
What about a vagina makes it go together with make up? It's totally arbitrary, just a cultural vestige, and in a free country no one should have to live a certain way just because of tradition
The bigots on this website are un-American with how gleefully they hate on the trans community
A big part of why I support trans gender people is because they are "right" in the sense that what a person chooses to present as has nothing to do with their genitals.
Just because that's what the majority does does not mean that that's what everyone has to do
My personal beliefs are not propaganda and I'm not gonna stop expressing them. If you can't handle that then feel free to block me
Just because that's what the majority does does not mean that that's what everyone has to do
...what a person chooses to present as has nothing to do with their genitals.
You're literally not making any points, yet you keep trying to insult my intelligence lol
Did I ever claim that trans people are not a minority? Nope. So what is your point?
And it's not propaganda. You're a brainwashed fool who has been convinced by the Ben Shapiros of the world that people who express opinions that you don't agree with are spreading propaganda
I could just as easily claim that you are spreading bigot propaganda. It's childish
Yet another of the wind up merchant sock puppets that infest this place.
"Everyone who doesn't agree with the hive mind is fake"
Cope harder. This is not the first time you reply to me about this topic. You tried to insert yourself into my conversation with samoanjoes
If you can't handle a discussion with someone smarter and more articulate than you then please stop picking fights with me
A wind up merchant's gotta do what a wind up merchant's gotta do.
So, if you concede that
The overwhelming majority of people present themselves in line with their biological sex.
why do the few outliers bother you so much?
Why is it "WOKE" to be kind to people who are different from ourselves?
What is the topic? I'm replying to your reply. So I am on topic.
I don't even know what is woke on these boards anymore. If anything is inclusive, it's woke. If it's respecting a trans person's right to be who they feel they are, it's woke. So yeah, my impression of what wokeness is that it is being kind to people who aren't in the majority.
is it kind to encourage people down a path that will bring them nothing but grief and pain ?
The treatment, as far as bigots like Quasimodo are concerned, would be antipsychotics, mood stabilizers, maybe antidepressants. Maybe even Electroshock Therapy or a lobotomy
This is just history repeating itself. It's exactly what homosexuals experienced in the 20th century
I guarantee you that Quasimodo hasn't actually considered a proper alternative because he doesn't actually care about the mental health of trans people. He doesn't care about the mental health of ACTUAL mentally ill people. In fact, I guarantee you that he knows nothing about psychiatry or psychology
He just co-opts the term "mentally ill" because it provides him with a tool to dehumanize the people that gross him out
The alternative is simple. If you are a feminine male live as a feminine male. And if you want to dress up as a woman do it in the privacy of your own home or at a little club of like minded people. But don't get surgery and/or take hormones in the ludicrous belief that you can become a woman. Just be who you are. And the same goes for masculine females. Anything else is a recipe for disaster.
THE ONLY DISASTER IS THE REACTION OF TEENY SCHLONG CREEPERS LIKE YOURSELF.
shareYou are a fake persona Kowalski and you have the nerve to call me a creeper. Reported by the way.
LMAO...I AM JUST ME,HOMBRE.🙂
shareLike fuck you are.
HERE I AM...I AM 6'6" BLONNDE HAIR BLUE EYES 220 MUSCLEY POUNDS...I HAVE A DAUGHTER AND A WIFE WHO IS THE DEVIL...I HAVE TOO MANY CATS AND A COUPLE JACKHUAHUAS...I LOVE MOVIES AND THE LAKERS...I HAVE OVR 30000 TITLES ON DVD/VHS/BLU...I SUPPORT GAY PEOPLE,TRANS PEOPLE,STRAIGHT PEOPLE,ALL PEOPLE,EXCEPT ASSHOLES...I ENJOY VIOLENCE AND SEX BUT DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE MY ONLY TOPICS OF DISCUSSION...
MY PICTURE...OF ME...WHERE IS YOURS?
https://imgur.com/vTu5M1Y
go outside u nut case.
u have repressed feminine urges that fuel a deep hatred for people who are comfortable with identifying themselves as they wish to be.
someone being a woman, and having a dick, does not affect a single person, including you. so stop being a little baby.
you are uneducated, inhumane, incapable of empathy, and most likely mentally ill and a social regect.
Another brand new sock puppet spewing a tirade of infantile abuse. What a surprise.
You nailed it!👏🏻👏🏻 I would add “troll” to your words of wisdom to read as such:
”Another brand new sock puppet “troll” spewing a tirade of infantile abuse. What a surprise.”
Sock puppet trolls are an ignorant lot. Their use of improper grammar with improper pronunciation tells all! 🙅🏼♀️
Well, consider that the OP is a sock troll....
shareI believe why I and so many others reject the trans movement is the fact those who don’t feel they are the correct gender are not sticking to themselves. They infiltrate themselves into others lives which is wrong. I don’t have to accept them, but I also don’t have to be cruel to them. They shouldn’t be bullied, but they also should stop insinuating themselves into others lives.
They should not be permitted to join women’s sports. They should not be permitted to make the military respond to their whims of using false pronouns. They should not be permitted to sue people and businesses for using those false pronouns. Parents (cough, cough) should not be permitted to take their 13 year old daughter to have her breasts cut off! Disgusting reaction in order to solve the kid’s “I feel I’m male” idiocy. In other words stop with the social engineering!
And, yes dammit don’t wear feminine makeup when renewing their driver’s license if they are listed as male on it. I can see it now. “A woman with blonde (or what ever color) hair was observed assaulting a person who insulted her.” The trans (mental case) fled, removed the dress and makeup thereby once again becoming the true gender.
All of this “woke” crap is getting out of hand. We had to look aside and accept known homosexuals into the military. The “Don’t ask, don’t tell” policy was working, but no it wasn’t good enough. So, now what does the military do with the trans group?
Finally, we do have to bend over backwards to placate them. I for one am sick of it! My motto “Be kind not cruel, but don’t accept personally.”
I didn't ask for your opinion on trans people. You've made that clear, and I think I've made it clear that I disagree with you.
I simply commented that the OP is a sock troll, and wasn't sure you were aware of that.
“Be kind not cruel, but don’t accept personally.”is what you said.
I haven’t seen one yet that didn’t remind of a horse!
I’m aware you didn’t ask for my opinion regarding trans people. All I was doing was attempting to explain why I and others don’t accept them. My comment “I haven’t seen one yet that didn’t remind of a horse!” is my personal opinion. I would never state those words verbally to a known trans. I would keep my personal feelings in check while being kind to one’s face. Being kind, but not accepting doesn’t hurt anyone. “Treat others as you want to be treated.” is a good adage, but it doesn’t mean we have to accept their choice.
shareI really don't think that it is a choice for them. We can disagree, whatever, but if you really think that people are just waking up and deciding to face this much backlash just for fun, then I really don't know what to say. Science really can't explain it at the moment, but there are animal specials which change sex, there are species where the females have penises, male sea horses give birth. So when someone says that it's not natural, or that it's not what was intended, I'm not so sure.
shareBut, we can’t equate ourselves with the lower species of the animal kingdom. I cannot explain what occurs with other species, but I do believe God does not make mistakes with humankind.
As I wrote in a prior post I was a tomboy. I didn’t want to be a girl. I wanted to be a boy and I hated it when I began to develop breasts. What could I do? How could I stop them from growing? I never liked dolls so I played with my brother’s toys. His cap guns, his trains, his bike because I hated a girl’s bike.
Turn the clock back with today’s mores and more than likely I would have fallen into the trans mindset. I thank God this “woke” crap wasn’t front and center. Nature took its course and I became a female as I was meant to be.
I honestly believe sometime during their lifetime trans and homosexuals get their wires short circuited and they are encouraged to be what they feel. All it takes is one or two to start a movement. Then it becomes a tidal wave and we have to abide by all the oddities they present. Bruce Jenner had a big hand in this new “woke” caca! If that is what they want so be it, but cease shoving it down our throats and making society change its mores to placate them! 🙅🏼♀️ Just stop it!
The number of trans people are truly a small portion of the population. As I've said before, many of the younger people who are trying out different pronouns are just trying to figure out who they are. There have always been trans people. There have always been homosexual people.
If you do believe in God, and you don't believe that he makes mistakes, then how can trans people exist if he didn't want them to? I also don't think that we are above any lower species, so yeah, I think that we can equate some physiological instances.
I'm also sorry, I don't think my wires are crossed, and I'm glad I live in society where I am accepted for whom I choose to have sex with because it is none of your business or anyone else's. My right to exist, isn't shoving anything down your throat, nor is Elliot Page, or Bruce Jenner shoving anything down your throat. I have yet to see a single trans person on this forum telling anyone how to live their life, but you know what I have seen? A bunch of people on a trans actors board trashing him every single chance they get.
Tell me, how is that being kind? How is that live and let live? Who is doing the shoving? We've lost a few LGBTQ posters who have had enough of all the shit on this board. I don't care who you are, who you sleep with, or what genitals you have between your legs. I do care when people are assholes, and this place is full of assholes.
“Live and let live” is a good way to live, but you completely missed my point. You are correct in stating it’s not any of my business to whom you wish to have sex. I’m not telling you how to live, but your space ends at my fingertips. Whether you realize it or not by forcing me and others to acquiesce to your lifestyle with the asinine laws forced upon us is infringing on our rights.
Trans people forcing women’s sports to accept them is wrong! It’s just not fair because the male trans will always be stronger. I don’t give a rat’s patootie with whom you have sex. I went to high school with homosexuals and they were part of our crowd. We didn’t talk or think about their lifestyle because it wasn’t forced upon us. They were there. We were there. It was what it was.
BTW, from what I read I don’t believe God is in favor of anyone going the trans route.
Be courteous to one another and check your beliefs at the door. I may not accept your lifestyle, but you would never know it if I met you personally.
forcing me and others to acquiesce to your lifestyle with the asinine laws forced upon us is infringing on our rights.
It’s late. I’m tired physically and I’m tired mentally with this topic. Let’s call it a draw or a standstill. To quote the title of a popular 1970’s book…”I’m OK, You’re OK” and let it go at that.
”Live and let live!
I get that you are tired and so am I. I'm really tired of all the hatred on this site.
As for calling this a draw or a standstill, I never once was trying to change your mind or prove myself right. I'm just trying to understand why people are so vehemently against something the can't understand. Maybe I never will.
Did the author write a prequel ? I'm not okay, you're not okay. That would be closer to the mark I think.
Don't do that to yourself. Don't be like Quasimodo and brainwash yourself
Whatever you read is not the will of God. No one person or group, no matter how influential or intellectual can really speak for God
If he doesn't make mistakes then one could just as easily argue that trans people were born to be trans. That they were created to teach cis people about how we think of gender
The bible doesn't mention that topic because it's a modern cultural phenomenon. Nobody has the authority t say for sure what Christ would have thought about this topic. But we do know that we should be loving, kind, and generous even with strangers
I’m not brainwashed. Far from it. It’s those in the “WOKE” world who are brainwashed into believing anything goes. It’s known as “social engineering”.
”The bible doesn't mention that topic because it's a modern cultural phenomenon.”
Exactly!! A “modern cultural phenomenon“!
BTW, I don’t speak for God. How presumptuous that would be! But, I do quote His words. And, to quote His words:
“.…we do know that we should be loving, kind, and generous even with strangers”
One just has to look at the art and literature from ancient civilizations to know that this isn't a modern cultural phenomenon.
shareNobody is denying the historical existence of homosexuality but this trans business is concocted and dangerous nonsense.
What are your qualifications to make such a statement? Are you an anthropologist? Just because there was no surgery in ancient times does not mean that those who we would now consider trans didn't exist.
shareIt doesn’t make it OK and we should have to accept it. There are all types of what some would call art. A Crucifix set in urine is blasphemy at its worst! I was doing research on something benign. A page of filth opened. Pornography out of the pits of hell! A female doing a bj on a horse! Some would call that art.
“ As in the days of Noah…”
Everyone is brainwashed. The right, the left, even the center. No faction
Will ever have a monopoly on God's will
There is no such thing as "trans". There are males and females and a tiny proportion of people who are hermaphrodites. What we have are some males who are more feminine in their personalities just as some females are more masculine in their personalities. And that is how they should live.
People who want to go down the surgical and hormonal path in the mistaken belief that they can become the opposite sex are mentally ill. And people who encourage them or facilitate this are doing them harm.
🤣🤣🤣thank you, doctor
shareOh that's an example of your superior intellect at work is it ? When you have nothing to say you resort to mockery.
So it’s OK with you for nut jobs who are supposed to be parents to take their 13 year old daughter to have her breasts cut off? At a particular time the 13 year old believes she’s in the wrong body! Maybe there’s a pea pod out there who is about to hatch a male version of herself. A new Avatar.
shareNo, I didn't say I'm ok with that. But tmost trans people don't get surgeries as 13 year olds. You are mistaking humility and withholding judgment with blanket approval
shareI have a right to mentally be judgmental. To verbalize it to their faces? No, I would not do so. I would not associate with them outside of work if I wasn’t retired. If people are offended by their lifestyle, but are obligated to work with them…check the feelings at the door. Treat the person as you would treat others. Keep opinions to oneself.
shareBelieve what you want, but don't equate your beliefs r biases with God's wrd
share...but if you really think that people are just waking up and deciding to face this much backlash just for fun, then I really don't know what to say.
I believe that humans are part of the natural world and part of the animal kingdom. I was not comparing humans to sea horses, I was mentioning that there are abnormalities in the kingdom which we belong to.
shareAnd again you simply deny what you said. If you weren't comparing them why did you write about it ? Maybe because you're fond of sea horses ?
I'm very fond of sea horses thanks. I think they are really cool creatures. I'm not denying what I said. I said that science cant explain it but that there are instances in nature of other species changing sex, species where females have penises, and that male sea horses give birth. I dont see where I am comparing a sea horse to a human.
shareAs an aside forcing the trans to use hand sanitizer to clean the face was a big no-no. The trans should have been told to leave and return later without makeup due to the license stating “male” or change the license gender.
shareI agree with that. I have been discussing that in a comment above. I think in the article they couldn't make another appointment. But if they can't leave and come back, allow them to use the washroom and try to wash the makeup off in the sink.
shareThere are a number of bad faith actors here at Moviechat and they have a lot of sock puppet accounts. When you argue with them they just ignore what you say and keep spouting their nonsense. I call them wind up merchants because that's what they are. It's like being at the Mad Hatter's Tea Party. I just can't be bothered with it most of the time.
I call it being so deep down into the “rabbit hole” they will never get out! (Another reference to Lewis Carroll’s “Alice In Wonderland”.)
shareSays the longtime snarky, pompous and paranoid prick who sees sock puppets everywhere on the site. What in the hell makes you so "one and only"?
shareI'm surprised it took you so long to join in !
Because when they got him showered and hosed down at the big house and trying to keep him out of their women jails they want to know exactly what he looks like.
share“The employee said because my appearance didn’t match my gender, it wouldn’t be able to be picked up by the facial recognition software.”
The lesson is if you want to rob a bank, wear makeup if you're a guy to beat their facial recognition software.
Thanks for the tip!
Uh, a friend is, uh, interested in the technology...
I haven’t seen one yet that didn’t remind of a horse! Personally I believe they are mental. If your driver’s license lists you as a male, then dammit don’t wear make-up for your photo. The solution for this crap is to list oneself as an “IT” or “I’m Not Sure What I Am”! The whole damn world is spinning off its axis.
The damn “I’m Not Sure What I Am” woke group is competing and taking over REAL women’s sports! People and Corporations are being sued for not using the “false pronouns”!
I don’t give a rat’s patootie what you think you are if you have male DNA…hold onto your hats…you are a male! If you have female DNA you will always be a female!
Good Grief! Wake me when this idiocy is over!😴😴😴😴
HISTORICALLY ...MEN HAVE WORN MORE MAKE-UP THAN WOMEN.
shareYou are so correct! Look how freakish the French males were back in the 1700’s. All I was getting at was to change your gender on your driver’s license to “Unknown” or “It’s What I Feel Like because I may decide to be both next year”, or “It…So Take Your Pick”, or “I’m Not Sure What I Am” or just carry two photos. “The 1st one is what I really look like with my Adam’s apple. The 2nd one is what I look like with makeup because I feel Trans at this time.”
As I wrote prior “Please wake me when this idiocy is over!” 🥴
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No reason why a man can't wear makeup like actors do. I don't mean transgender. Guys used to not wear any earrings nor grow hair pass the collar, but now nobody gives it a thought. Ditto with women and tattoos.
shareJust create a religion, as its a protected right and can't be discriminated against. Pastafarians who are members of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster are allowed to wear colanders as a hat for their license picture.
https://people.com/celebrity/pastafarian-wins-right-to-wear-colander-in-dmv-photo/
Asia Carerra did that.
shareRevive the cult of Cybele!
sharePlease refer to site standards https://moviechat.org/standards
4.Content that incites hatred against, promotes discrimination of, or disparages an individual or group on the basis of their race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, age, nationality, veteran status, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or other characteristic that is associated with systemic discrimination or marginalization
Don't tell me that this was just posted with innocent intent with comments like This DUDE was being overly dramatic and exaggerating. and These are sick people with mental problems. It's disgusting how society bends over backwards over them.
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