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Boromir's guess the famous game #187 [Elizabeth Báthory is the (in)famous person, Carrot wins!]


1. I'm thinking of some famous person, it can be a film actor, a philosopher, a president, a prime minister, a singer, fictional character, mafia man etc.
2. You need to ask me a yes or no question about this person, for example, "Is the person still alive?," "Does the person work in the entertainment industry?," any question you can think of that helps you to reveal the answer. The host answers with yes or no only.
3. Maximum 1 question and 1 guess per player per answer.
4. The winner can either start a new game or say "pass." In case of a pass, the OP gets to start another.

List of mystery persons -
https://moviechat.org/general/General-Discussion/616343f570ebcb3bafb72d63/List-All-Boromirs-guess-the-famous-game-1-200


1: Dead? Yes
2: Died before 1800? Yes
3: Died before 1700? Yes
4: Male? No
5: Elizabeth Báthory? Yes!

Carrot, who apparently has some supernatural power, has somehow won with Elizabeth Báthory, infamous 16th/17th-century Hungarian serial killer who tortured hundreds of young girls to death in her castles. Considered the most prolific female serial killer of all time.

nyctc7 - 41
hownos - 35
LauraGrace - 27
Boromir - 26
Carrot - 21
Kawada_Kira - 19
tcrum - 8
sslssg - 3
lud - 2
Bloodshot77 - 2
StoneKeeper - 1
FredBurroughs - 1
capuchin - 1

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Dead?

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Died before 1800?

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Died before 1700?

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male?

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Elizabeth Báthory?

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......How? How could you possibly have jumped straight to her based on the little information I've given? All I gave is that she's female and died before 1700! **looks out window behind me, sees no carrots looking over my shoulder** Well... you win!

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Is she the one who bathed in the blood of virgins?

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That part isn't considered historically accurate, it's an embellishment of later legend. I mean it's possible she did, she was certainly crazy enough, but there's no source for it during her lifetime.

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Just found a link that I had read a year or so ago and forgotten about, in which a historian talks about the reality and myth of Báthory. The bathing in blood thing is certainly false, originating in local Hungarian and Slovakian peasant folklore in the decades after Báthory's death; she had left a dark enough impression on the people of the regions in which she committed her crimes that she gave birth to exaggerated legend that outlived her. This myth was picked up by a Jesuit priest who listened to the folklore among peasants in the vicinity of Báthory's home castle a hundred years later, and from there it made its way into German and then English literature, which gladly ate it up for its salaciousness and misogynist undertones (the first English writer to record the legend talks about "that worst of woman's weaknesses, vanity" as being why Báthory supposedly bathed in blood). But the testimony of Báthory's accomplices about the things she did and they did with her is grisly enough without the exaggeration.

It seems also that in recent years right-wing Hungarian nationalists have been trying to whitewash Báthory in order to remove the stain on Hungarian history and the name of the aristocratic family she was part of. I notice that her Wikipedia page now is significantly different from what it was a year or two ago; there seems to be a sort of editing war between historical revisionists trying to whitewash her and people trying to keep the article faithful to the evidence. The evidence itself seems pretty clear, with Báthory's servants independently corroborating each other's testimony, other aristocratic families testifying that they had sent daughters to be educated or work on Báthory estates only to never hear from them again, and local peasants reporting witnessing a constant stream of coffins leaving Báthory's castles.

The main reason she was able to get away with it for so long was because her victims were initially peasants and nobody gave a damn about them in Hungary's elitist feudal society. But once she started killing noble-born girls, that was when an investigation was finally started.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/eb4un2/floating_feature_travel_through_time_to_share_the/fcvnyij/

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Serial killers almost always pick the weakest in society or the most vulnerable ones, from prostitutes, homeless, single women, children, poor people and so on.

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Very true.

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That's got to be the record for quickest win.

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I'm still baffled. Has Carrot hacked my computer somehow? I really expected this to be a long game in which one or two players were gonna get huffy about the difficult people I'm always picking.

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Halloween state of mind, I think.

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Exactly why I picked her lol.

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Asperger's powers, activate!

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are you going to do one?

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Starting one in a few.

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Yes. Previous shortest was Snoopy. I was host and Boromir won. 5 questions.

This one was 4 questions because we shouldn't count the winning guess (I think we agreed on that).

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I talked with Boromir a while back and I thought we agreed to count the winning guess.

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Maybe I got it backwards, but if you click on the list of games and scroll to #128 it says:

Snoopy (5 Q) - shortest game ever

But going to that game the winning guess is not counted
https://moviechat.org/general/General-Discussion/6169f2f4c0160423dd13b730/Boromirs-guess-the-famous-game-128-SNOOPY-is-the-famous-Boromir-wins


I would argue not to count the winning guess because the player won based on the previous responses.

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Unfortunately I can't seem to find the thread where me and Boromir talked about counting the winning guess in the final tally. But I know I suggested it and he agreed with me. It doesn't seem to have been implemented consistently though. On the list of games where the number of questions for each round is listed, some of them include the winning guess and some don't. It seems to depend on the person who hosted the round, whether they included it or not.

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If Boromr is going to highlight shortest and longest games, it should be consistent, that's all.

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I agree with that.

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From hence forward - I propose that all hosts include the final and winning guess to the tally board.

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It's something I've started to do. For one thing, it lets players easily see that the game is over, while I am writing a blurb about my pick, changing the scoreboard, etc.

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Me as well. And for Boromir's benefit as he does the bookkeeping.

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Good morning everyone

I am not sure what exactly I said to Kawada_Kira but after my conversation with him I decide not to count the winning guess. For two main reasons: (1)make more sense; (2) less to fixed (this custom start later in the game).

I was especially careful when it came to records. My advice everyone check there own games (the ones he or she host). If you find any mistake please tell me and I fixed it.

https://moviechat.org/general/General-Discussion/616343f570ebcb3bafb72d63/List-All-Boromirs-guess-the-famous-game-1-200



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Died before 1600?

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